Survival of the fittest!

And fair enough to that.

I mean, all I’ve been saying is that I think there are solutions that people could put into play. It could even be as simple as Alliance guilds that are established posting recruitment threads, and helping getting second raid groups going, especially if they are willing to spend some time to help people level or offer bags, etc.

From the Blizzard side, if they offer free faction changes for Horde to Alliance on heavily Horde biased servers, that could maybe help to balance numbers, but it would totally break any notion of #nochanges, and I don’t know if that would actually help in any way.

Ironforge.pro probably most relevant as it parses from active raid groups via wc logs who are causing all the chaos?

It’s a very strong racial, I do get that. I know nothing about resistance base values though. Thank you for the information.

Funny that’s what all the toons say when their faction severely outnumbers the opposite faction…

Yeah would love to go to another server but im stuck here for the moment! However if I would be able to transfer it would be whitemane! Thats where i started!

What does a paladin have to do with warrior vs mage? Fear word is too strong as well. What’s your point? That was also changed later for balancing.

Obviously the game isn’t going to be balanced and I understand that. I was just pointing out that Will of The Forsaken is ‘currently’ the most powerful racial in the game and a lot of times can win you a fight you would have otherwise lost.

Thinking in the context of WPVP or Battlegrounds, where it isn’t 1v1, as I don’t think anybody has ever claimed that WoW is balanced around 1v1 dueling, the question was more about just how advantageous the skillsets of Race/Class combinations for Horde are over the skillsets of Race/Class combinations for Alliance. What that has to do with warrior vs mage with or without Paladin, you tell me.

See above. There’s also a topic discussing Faction Racial Ability Imbalance.

Oh, OK. I hadn’t realized how strong it was, or even that it granted immunity after use for a few seconds. That really does seem quite strong!

I also did not know that the Paladin skills to immobilize undead were not effective in Classic. That would also make a considerable impact.

Anyway, I’m pretty interested in an overall understanding of just how much of a difference the racials make, statistically. Like, has anybody put together charts to show that with teams of 10v10 in WSG, for example, that due to WotF, and Hardiness, Horde will win, on average N percent more often than Alliance?

It seems like something that would have been on Elitist Jerks back in the day, as they tended to like to try to work through mathematical probability, as far as I recall.