It’s weird that it’s largely Horde players saying, “get gud”. The ones that benefit from the imbalance.
Alliance players need to grow up and get gud.
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That’s convenient. I’m personally Horde, because I prefer it. I’ve always played Horde. I happen to be on Faerlina now, which as far as we know has more Alliance than Horde.
Certainly, these are all choices. Again, I’m not sure what it is that your point is, but you seem to be suggesting that whining and complaining is a recourse for not liking something. Perhaps it is, and perhaps Blizzard will give in to the whiners and complainers.
Personally, I hope not, but that’s me. There is no reason for people to not take control of their own situations, and do something themselves. Would you like to see more people come to your server? What are you doing about it? What can you do about it?
Well, you could lead PR campaigns, recruit through all the social channels available, start a guild, or lead a guild, and have and/or lead activities that encourage more people to come and do the types of things you like to do, with you.
I certainly don’t want to go and join someone who is complaining and whining that they are not having a good time, because they are trying to solo content in the world and are getting killed by people who assembled a group to go out and kill them. I mean, come on!
Get a party together, and go farm some honor, if that’s what you want to do. If the situation is not something you can handle, then do something about it.
Sure, if the only thing you can think to do about it is complain, then maybe that’s what you are doing. I get that, and maybe it even makes sense to you to do that. And certainly, if Blizzard does something, it may look like they are giving in to complaints, and maybe they are.
If something like Warmode comes to Classic, that would absolutely kill any hope I have for the company. I personally was excited about Classic because I wanted to get away from the whiners, and complainers, not have them all follow us here, and try to cause changes.
So, saying Blizzard should do something. Saying, privilege exists in Classic. Refusing to take responsibility for yourself. No wonder nobody wants to join you on your chosen faction!
Horde under the same conditions are more whiny than alliance could even imagine. And this has been proven through history because horde haven’t had the strongest racials in all versions of WoW.
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Well, that’s fine. I know that there have got to be a lot of decent people who happen to prefer Alliance. I’ve been playing Horde since I started playing WoW, and it was always the underdog. But, that doesn’t appear to be the case now.
Perhaps I am just noticing that most of the people whining and complaining happen to be posting from Alliance characters (whether that’s true or not), and perhaps I am conflating things I’ve heard like there are more Alliance on PVE servers than on PVP servers, with ideas that the type of people who roll Alliance are better suited for PVE, because they are whiny, complainers, who can’t PVP. And maybe that’s on me.
Faction bashing aside, all the points about whining and complaining versus actually doing something about it stand though.
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But the glaring overwhelming difference in sheer power of the racial abilities and population have never been so mind crushingly indefensible as it is right now.
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Good argument.
Yeah? Let’s discuss, please.
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Mm and I don’t think you understand that there are realms that are in bad shape and it wasn’t particularly by design of the players. Not intentional anyway.
For some realms it isn’t that the opposition grouped up to fight them, they just have much more ample numbers to assist them. Even if these players decided to group up and fight back, the opposing faction can always find more to turn the tide back in their favour.
This is what I meant by privilege. Just because you are able to find competitive world pvp on your realm, it doesn’t mean that every realm’s faction ratio allows them to defend themselves and traverse the world without being against unreasonable odds.
Sure they can find another realm that fits their needs better but Blizzard could also do a better job at distributing transfers that will actually help re balance realms and by enacting faction based queues to offer incentive to rolling alliance or an incentive for the horde to transfer off to a lesser populated realm.
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I get it. There are realms that have faction imbalance. I mean, come on man, I played Horde on Laughing Skull in Vanilla and BC, I know what faction imbalance means, though sure Classic realm sizes are much larger, and that may not be a fair comparison.
My point is, I understand that there are issues, but that doesn’t mean that I’m going to pretend to think whining about them is OK, or a socially acceptable norm that I’m OK with. Do something about it!
But, that’s absolutely not a “just because.” It’s literally because I made the choice and I started over. That is not privilege, and it’s available to everyone else.
Maybe, but blaming Horde for not transferring when Alliance fleeing servers in-droves caused some of the imbalance people are complaining about, and then pushing Horde to transfer is a horrible thing to incentivise, imo.
I’m starting to think literally everyone that plays this game thinks they played and play on the most IMBALANCED. SERVER. EVER. No, seriously bro, I was doing a quest and I got killed once, it must be like 99:1 for real. The other guys never get killed and I get killed all the time. Me. The protagonist of reality.
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Too bad I’m on break playing other games lol!
How big of an advantage does a massive resistance to stun increase, or the ability to break and immune from fear/charm/sleep, and even an AoE stun grant you?
If you can’t figure that out, I don’t think you need to worry about it.
I’m not blaming anyone, I play Horde on one of the bigger realms and I am very comfortable. I feel no need to transfer and even if I did, I wouldn’t be comfortable leaving my guild behind.
I’ve been on dead factions too and I know that it is likely to continue to get worse unless Blizzard initiates an appropriate response.
I don’t expect Blizzard to respond fast or maybe even by the time that it could be too late to repair the damage. I do believe that these complaints won’t be for nought though. They’ll get through to them to some degree.
lol this kid like you didnt ride around in a zerg getting free kills you cant earn 1v1
Obvious troll. Report away lol
Gnome and dwarf are very powerful in PvP too.
Orc racial is a chance to resist. It can be both OP and a complete waste depending on rng.
For most orc classes the resist is the only useable racial. Axe spec and pet dmg is very specific.
If you’re unlucky you’ll take every stun.
Orc are strong, no doubt. I’ve always felt it funny that you forsake any other racial slots for a chance.
You seem to be pointing out Hardiness, Will of the Forsaken, and Warstomp. And sure, I think those are great racials, but it’s not as if Alliance have no racials. I’m not saying that Hardiness isn’t an amazing racial, but how amazing really? That’s my question.
Alliance have Paladins. Does that balance things out at all? Maybe not, maybe Shaman are so OP that Freedom, and Turn Undead don’t help as much in PVP situations on average. I’m not quite sure.
Go ahead and break it down. I’d love to hear more about it. Since you mention “figure it out,” would you mind providing some figures?
As someone who spent a significant amount of time to find balanced servers to play on (i started two weeks late). This statement is total crap. Besides Faerlina, because i would never play there, there were a grand total of 2 semi balanced servers. The other half dozen pvp servers all had terrible balance and i ran a census on both sides during prime time on all est pvp servers. Even the 2 semi balanced servers were still in favor of the horde. Not one server showed in favor of the alliance.
You cant blame alliance for leaving what everyone knew was destined to turn from a pvp server into a pve server for horde. Either horde needed to balance the pvp servers or blizzard did.
So, Horde or Blizzard are capable of balancing servers, but Alliance isn’t? That’s an interesting take on things.
Every server had more horde than alliance and you expect the alliance to balance them? What do you suggest, which ones do we breed? Gnomes and humans? How would you get the alliance to multiply?
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