First, pets are not major problem. Stop this repeated fallacy. Even if blizzard buffs pet into immortality right #!%!ing now Survival still remains rotten into 0.4% representation UNDER the guardian druids pvp representation.
Solution
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Major flat buff 10% all damage.
INB4: “sv dmg is ok” No, its not ok, its the weakest damage of all dps specs. If you disagree just mention a dps spec which has lower damage than SV, we can bet on this one.
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Master’s call baseline
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Burst should be stronger OR wildfire bomb should decreases Coordinated assault just like Bestial Wrath mechanic through Barbed Shot.
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Actually pets and pet rez are the major problem. Otherwise it’s a very rounded PvP spec.
Dmg could be buffed but yeah you are completely missing what’s wrong.
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- zero dot four percent representation
- very rounded
You missing completely what viable means.
Like i said, pet is a problem but its not major. Even if pets were unable to die, this representation would remain.
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I mean I tried to look you up for achievements but it’s not showing up but I’m going to assume 1500 achievement and that’s about it.
The representation is due to MM being better in PvP finally and most hunters not wanting to play a melee hunter. The pet issues on top of it making the spec even less playable.
You are way outside your level of knowledge on the topic.
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2200 achiev.
You are right but not for the reason you think.
MM has more representation because SV is totally garbage not because hunters has options.
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Do you not find marksman fun though? I enjoyed mm in previous expansions.
Not going against your concerns but you do have at least one viable spec in arena.
For a 2200 player that should understand hunters you really don’t act it. Was it a carry?
Do you visit the hunter forums? Or do any research? I’m honestly interested since you are missing the mark so much.
SV has a small niche following; myself included. But SV was the only option in PvP in BFA. It was still a small following and a lot of those players wanted it to be ranged.
I feel your pain.
No.
Most of them doens’t know what they are talking about.
Like i said, i work through facts.
You wanna bet with me SV representation through PET-ONLY buffs and through overall dmg buffs?
I can bet with you right now SV will rot under 1% even if pet is generously adressed.
“Unable to debate without ad hominem” Confirmed.
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“Most of them don’t know what they are talking about”
Lol okay
Im calculating really forward through my arena experience.
I know even if blizzard buff pets into hell, survival will still remain 0.4%~1% because that is not hunter major problem (is a problem, but is not on top 3 problems)
“pet is the major problem”
So, who is the first one to bet? Today pet will be 20% more resilent. SV still remain 0.4% doens’t matter.
inb4: “SV will remain 0.4% because MM is much more cooler” thats a really poor argument.
I got a genuine question - doesn’t survival lack the defensive tools to be able to go into melee? Unlike Paladins when we pop our immune we still take DoT damage, the immune isn’t instant or negates incoming projectiles pre-turtle, and we can’t damage during it, our second defensive is just 20% damage reduction, and our third is just a pitiful heal.
Even if Survival gets damage on par with the meta I still don’t see it doing well because the hunter’s defensive kit is pretty god damn awful. When you have WW’s in almost every match-up with a million pets even trapping becomes really difficult when you’re being pressured.
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Trapping as survival is actually very good. Harpoon into trap is amazing. Trapping in general is a learned skill. It’s not unusual for me to disengage and trap while mid-air. Just takes some play time and practice. It feels very rewarding landing a good trap.
Hunters have feign, pet sac, turtle, and a self heal so the defensives aren’t that bad. Survival also has the ability to kite very well while doing a decent amount of damage from ranged. Basically allowing them to kite the burst or defensives of other classes, then set up cc and go in for the kill.
TLDR: Harpoon roots your target. If you are having trouble landing traps you should be harpooning into the target to root/trap them.
Yes, you are right.
If we talk about damage and defense we have neither.
Thats why im only asking for damage because at least the spec would be playable.
Yes, yes they are. Considering the pet dies in two hits and you can’t play the game bcuz all of your pressure is tied to your pet.
Yes, they died in two hits, i won’t deny. Yet this is not top 3 problems because even when pets do not die, sv is far behind other specs.
“Pet is the major problem”
So with the 20% buff on pets, tell me how much 0.4% sv representation will increase? tell me, how much?
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Survival def isnt up to par to the top 4 or 5 classes but i feel like we arent as bad as people say… once we get the gear it feels much much better. This pet buff will def help. Even before getting our pet back up was possible,more so just annoying. Don’t get me wrong i think some of the lower classes represented could be brought up very slightly… but we really dont need much.
-0.4%, under the #!¨%#!¨! druid tank…
-don’t need much
Pick one, because you can’t have both