Survival is still not where it needs to be

I’m still consistently behind other equivalently geared players at the end of a key.

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Are you sure it’s not PEBKAC ?

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Survival single target is good. Survival aoe is rough. It feels like you need the 4 set to compete.

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Plus, while SV can spec into a solid single target, fully committing to an AOE build gives mediocre AOE and tanked ST. This isn’t a problem for BM who can do both with little to no build or rotation changes. I think cleave on Mongoose/Raptor as a baseline would help tbh.

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It really feels like without our pack leader 4 set, our AOE is bleh. I plan to aim for 4 set next week if vault blesses me, but it’s rough. I think a mongoose bite cleave or something like 2 charges on butchery would be fantastic. Having to choose between flanking strike and butchery is rough.

if sv just had merciless blows unnerfed and the wfb dot buffed a smidge it’d be golden

Let’s be honest, folks: Survival has been garbage for a long time, and every time they try to “fix” it, they somehow make it worse! I’d like to (sarcastically) congratulate both the developers responsible for the spec and whoever’s in charge of balancing.

Honestly, it feels like a complete waste of time posting here on the forums asking Blizzard to fix certain abilities, increase some damage, or tweak tier bonuses… It’s all pointless! I’ve been following these forums for years and have seen amazing suggestions from players who actually understand the spec — and nothing ever gets implemented.

The truth is simple, guys: Blizzard couldn’t care less about Survival or about what we think!

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TBH I dont know what they are thinking, 5 patches in a row with mediocre damage :frowning: I love the spec so much but its so hard to push high level keys and raid with it, please devs, give us some love :(((((((((((((

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