Survival Hunters

[Aimpaum-lone-wolf]

Did you not read what i said that Hunters do not have any defensive abilities to make a competitive tank spec? What runes would you replace if you gave hunters a tank spec hm? You think two runes is enough? If it takes 4 runes for rogue tanks and warlock tanks to be competitive tank specs, what makes you think having only two tank runes would suffice?

The only defensive talents in the survival tree is deterrence, parry chance, and increased stamina. That is not enough justification to make SV a tank spec or become even competitively close to other tank specs.

You could make survival a healing/dps spec like Spriests, but how would that work out? Give them a talent like vampiric embrace? Give them a battle res by sacrificing pet in combat? Idk. Theres too many nooks and crannies to dive into justifying a healing/dps spec.

[Hamstar-draktharon (Hamstar)]

Healing spec.

[Skies-crusader-strike]

@Morkra-saurfang

• 5/5 Deflection for 5% parry
• 5/5 Survivalist for 10% health increase
• Deterrence for + 25% parry/dodge on cooldown
• 5/5 Lightning Reflexes for 15% agility
• 5/5 Imp Wing clip to stop runners
• 5/5 Entrapment for traps to lock them down (with Trap Launcher this was already huge in SM Phase 2)
• Combine all that with Catlike Reflexes (20% dodge), Heart of the Lion (10% stats)/Lone Wolf (30% Dmg), Melee Specialist, Flanking Strike, Raptor Fury, Carve and switch between Trap Launcher and Dual Wield Specialisation (Which basically turns Raptor Strike into Mutilate)

Add Improved Aspect of the Monkey and your Avoidance will be well over 50% without Deterrance.

The only thing Missing is a Rune or Talent like Just a Flesh Wound to reduce your Crit chance by 6% and some way to taunt and you have yourself a tank.

Rune of Wyvern Bite
Wyvern Sting now becomes Wyvern bite. Wyvern Bite swings your weapon at the target causing light damage over time and taunts the enemy forcing them to attack you. While Wyvern Bite’s damage over time is active, the target is unable to critically strike the Hunter.
Requires 2 handed weapon. Melee Range. 6 second CD

Rune of the Mad Monkey
While in Aspect of the monkey, your threat generated by your attacks is increased by 40% and Deterrence’s cooldown is reduced by 50%.

itemization that prio’s extra armor and HP
easy tank

[Graou-terokkar]

@Aimpaum-lone-wolf

The only defensive talents in the survival tree is deterrence, parry chance, and increased stamina. That is not enough justification to make SV a tank spec or become even competitively close to other tank specs.

There is literally less work to be made than for rogues and locks.
As I posted in another thread, these are my defensive stats @242 def in DPS gear if I spec for tanking:

• 3819 health
• 2650 armor (36,3% DR)
• 51% dodge
• 9,68% parry

Personally I would make a rune with the tanking package (threat, crit immunity and turning disengage into a taunt) and another rune that gives mongoose bite a reason to be played (something like +15% health and DR for 10s after cast).

That being said adding a tanking rune doesn’t invalidate other options that can also be explored on other runes.

[Sodmoo-lava-lash]

it’s called survival for you to survive PvP. Just don’t run it in pve. Shaman tank over dps other dps classes is a mistake. Devs don’t know how classes should be working

[Bowzo-lone-wolf]

Rogues and sp are already busted in pvp who cares at this point.

[Viperia-lone-wolf]

IDK I’m just trying to avoid more nerfs to hunters that’s all I know how it goes on here