Survival Hunters as a tank spec

Literally ever part of “old” Surv is split between the BM and MM trees at this point.

Old Old Surv, before Mists, looked more like current Surv. The thing is the parts of the classic surv toolkit people picked weren’t its combat skills.

Surv was the dot based hunter spec, which is why I played it over bm or mm.

Ive also tried it off and on since legion. Never been a fan.
I miss my og survival.

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That’s Mists and Warlords though.

Before that specs were massively different in how they were implemented.

Maybe a dual gun would be nice for survival. Gunslinger or double barrel type would be also an option if a tank swap is not a good idea.

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No thank you. I play outlaw, and you just know that would become the default split “tank” spec. I’d honestly be all for more tank specs, hell I’d probably love Shaman tanking if it was done right but splitting specs like Druids used to be is the wrong way to go about it. They separated feral from guardian for a reason.

It wasn’t. I played surv from wrath until legion. It was always dot based.
Cata, your primary aoe was multi shot/serpent sting spread and explosive shot/trap.

I had a ton of surv hunters. Some lvl 19 twinks. Many I raided on throughout the years. Ive been bm since legion.

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Subtlety has been suggested as the ideal tank spec for rogue since, like… vanilla I think?

Wrath Survival had 2 dots total, Wyvern and Black Arrow, what are you even on about.

You can still see the old talent trees in Cata classic! The implementation of the specs was radically changed for Mists.

The sneaky, backstabby spec as a tank spec? Somehow that sounds like it would be a cooldown-dependent nightmare.

The shadow magic and “now you see me now you don’t, are you hitting me or my shadow” rogue spec is perfect as a tank spec. It’s basically a dodge tank (it had a talent for it) coupled with a master of illusions.

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I almost feel like that fits sylvaanas theme more.

Since I can’t post screenshots from mobile without them looking like trash. Please feel free to look this over.

You’ll notice several serpent sting talents. Black arrow. Explosive shot… like exactly what I said.

Idk why you are trying to convince me I am wrong when a 2 second search would have shown I was right lol.

  1. Cast and maintain Serpent Sting Icon Serpent Sting;
  2. Explosive Shot Icon Explosive Shot;
  3. Kill Shot Icon Kill Shot below 20%;
  4. Black Arrow Icon Black Arrow;
  5. Arcane Shot Icon Arcane Shot at 65+ focus;
  6. Cobra Shot Icon Cobra Shot to generat focus, which will also maintain Serpent Sting Icon Serpent Sting

  1. Explosive Trap Icon Explosive Trap;
  2. Multi-Shot Icon Multi-Shot at least once every 6 seconds to maintain Serpent Sting Icon Serpent Sting on all targets;
  3. Multi-Shot Icon Multi-Shot to spend focus;
  4. Explosive Shot Icon Explosive Shot during Lock and Load Icon Lock and Load procs
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Sylvanas has the issue that she’s fundamentally a hunter hero, but that, at the time, didn’t stop them from making Tyrande a priest by class and putting all of POTM/Elven Ranger’s toolkit on Shandris instead.

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Yep, still sounds like a cooldown-dependent nightmare that would be awesome on paper and terrible to actually play.

I mean tanking is all about CD management

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No no and no, hunters die quick as it is. Lets just fix brewmaster monks by giving them a buff or 2 and never mention this again. U dont breed a cat with a dog

Ok, I’ll get right on it.

Survival is more of a woodsman using a spear and improvised tools.

Overall, no, they shouldn’t remove a dps spec for the lols.

Right, and nobody wants to tank outside of guild groups.

Fix brews before you break survival.

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