Survival Hunter? An irony

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TL:DR: this is NOT an “I want Ranged Survival back!” post, this is about making Melee survival great instead of just okayish

Survival Hunters. The name of this spec is the biggest irony Blizzard has done.

Second Lowest spec played in PVE after Subtlely Rogues.
Only spec in the game which has received nada, none, 0 mechanical updates in both the alpha and then in beta so far.
A melee spec that has to compete with two ranged ones in the same class yet brings less utility than they do.
A base kit riddled with holes that force you to play a specific cookie cutter build to even make this thing somewhat work.
Bugs galore and a counterintuitive rotation.

The Melee Survival Hunter is a Failure of an experiment and a shameful reminder of how much Blizzard cares about our feedback.

I loved Ranged Survival and was my main spec all throughout WoD, I’m probably one of the very few that mained Ranged Survival and STILL is trying to like the current one even if they are literally entirely different specs only unified by a shared name…

But god Blizzard you make it so freaking hard.

If you are really not going to give us back our sorely missed Ranged Survival. At least try fixing this hot mess as you did with Shadow Priests.

Melee Survival Hunter can be great, it can be amazing, it can surpass Ranged in every single way, but if Blizzard keeps ignoring it and not giving it the updates it sorely need like it has so far then Survival will spend another expansion as just “Meh, is okayish” instead of “Survival is awesome!”

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So you want the class to have three of the same specs again. I’ve played this Hunter since vanilla and I can honestly say all three specs don’t feel the same and play different from each other and I like it.

So I’m good fam and Survival is fine the way it is.

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Hmm I don’t know, RSV and MSV is a contentious issue on the hunter forum, so I would not claim that melee survival is fine.

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The spec itself plays fine, imo. It’s just an incredibly dumb concept in a game already drowning in melee classes. Why the hell would we need another one, specifically from a class KNOWN AS RANGED?

These are the folks in Vanilla who ran around with the damn hatchets from Stratholme doing auto attacks and whining how hard the game was.

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Congrats

I don’t see any issue with each spec having its niche our unique gameplay and I never said a thing about that, Don’t force word into my word like you read my mind.

No is not, Serpent Sting scaling is messed up in a way that with enough levels of haste you are better off NEVER reapplying it.
Try playing Survival without mongoose bite. Almost all the talents rows are dead because you need specific talents to even play the bloody thing.
Survival is the only spec which has recieved no mechanical updates in all of alpha and beta either, as if it was forgotten.

I am completelly okay with Blizzard keeping Survival as a Melee. My issue is that if they really want to stick to it, Blizz should at least have the decency of giving us a proper spec to play instead of this hot mess.

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Survival Hunter would be nice if it went back with parry/dodge bonuses, trap mastery, and extra gadgets.

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No, it does not. The rotation is clunky as hell, we have no talent choices because we need specific ones to even make it smoother and some abilities are so counter-intuitive in the way they work like I previously stated with some examples.

I don’t care if Ranged Survival can’t come back, What I care is for Blizz to at least fix Melee Survival in someway.

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I liked it when all hunters could be melee by just getting into melee range.

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I like the idea of Survival, but I can’t stand playing it. It feels super clunky to me.

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Exactly my problem! the fantasy of Survival Hunter is not bad!

There is nothing wrong with the idea of a Melee Hunter the issue is the implementation needs a lot more work to actually be functional.

I think it speaks enough about how badly Survival Hunter currently works that is literally the second-lowest spec played in the game after subtlely rogues.

and the funny thing is Survival’s lack of popularity has nothing to do with numbers, A well-geared survival hunter can dish out perfectly acceptable numbers, the issue is how clunky of a spec it is to play.

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Rogues and Warriors are just so much better choices to melee with.

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This is the main issue with surv. The talents are what makes the spec work. They should compliment the spec instead.

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Well I’ve played hunters since Vanilla too and I personally don’t like going back to the era of “oh, you want to raid on your hunter? MM, BM, or … haha…ahahahahaha, hohoho hehhehe, Survival… oh, you’re serious? Uhh sorry our raid is suddenly full, bye!”

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Make survival an official pet tank spec

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I love survival. It’s one of the funnest specs to play in PvP.

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The only reason Survival is even used in PvP is because BM got nerfed to the ground in pvp and MM is an even bigger joke than SV when it comes to pvp.

I do not hate Survival, I am not asking them for it to be deleted.

I am asking them to fix it and make it good.

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I agree melee survival is a complete failure.

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Wildfire and mongoose baseline would help a ton. Throw in black arrow to replace the wildfire talent. Make black arrow also buff melee strikes for a period of time to incentivize being both ranged and melee.

That would improve the spec immensely with those small changes.

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Yes, but Blizzard won’t think it is unless we complain and complain.

I do honestly believe that now the only way we are going to get anything thru Blizzard’s thick skulls is by doing the same Shadow priests did.

Spam the forums with our voices and complain.

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Survival is a hidden gem of a spec that still needs a few things added to it and is completely neglected by the devs

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