There is no difference between this and \lfg or \world, except the addon has a GUI. It’s a pretty safe assumption that the majority of us who are saying they don’t ultimately care are people that are in guilds already and won’t be using either the addon or \lfg or \world to form parties.
You keep comparing this addon to matchmaking, but there’s some pretty striking differences.
1 - Content is not tuned for everyone to have 3 people, maybe 1 if they’re playing the right tank spec to complete. Interactions matter.
2 - Everyone is on the same server, so it’s not pure randoms that you’ll never see or hear from again.
3 - You’re still incentivized because of 1 and 2 to if you enjoy playing with those players, to add them to a friends list or put them on a blacklist if they’re terrible.
Not a new functionality. There have been several add-ons since classic that have done this same exact thing. I used to whisper our old raid leader “cheeseburger” because that was the trigger for invites we used to use.
You’re left in the dust if you don’t join a guild and play with the same routine amount of players.
The addon does nothing in that regard.
Most rational people will define the spirit of classic as letting people choose their own adventure, even if we agree that the way you’re doing that is wrong.
Well, I have no idea what will happen on live, but in beta basically nobody was using the addon so you never saw any groups in the addon itself. It may be possible that due to lack of use, the auto advertise feature will be more useful than the actual bulletin board built into the addon, it just depends on if people use it or not. Hopefully everyone congregates into the same /lfg channel to increase the number of players you’re advertising to with or without an addon.
I’ve heard that on private servers there were addons that just parsed chat channels for key words and essentially created a list in the addon of groups so it was easy to keep track of without having to stare at a LFG channel. It’s possible an addon like that is being made for classic as well?
True, I remember addons that would let you set a keyword and auto-invite people even from general chat on top of addons that would auto accept an invite.
A lot of them would say whisper me [whateverkeyword] though and you’d have to whisper them.
This.
I really don’t get why half the people against this even bother when most of them won’t even be forming groups in chat channels that frequently let alone worried about the people who are that they’re infrequently even interacting with.
Oh okay I can get on board that then. My biggest fear was dividing the community, but if it still posts in chat so people without the mod can join groups with people who have the mod, then I’m totally fine with it.
That BC system was just the same. You signed up with your name, class and role. Someone message you to discuss joining the party.
I’ve got no problem with this.
It can be difficult to post groups on trade, that chat is busy and if you post more than a couple times people get mad at you for “spamming”.
There are conversations concerning the party, you are still meeting new people and hopefully making new friends.
People will be uncomfortable leaving party during run or hapless kicking since they will be remembered.
Just my opinion.
Also, just to add, the idea that addons that facilitate forming groups go against the spirit of vanilla, or that they weren’t around then so shouldn’t be now, is simply factually incorrect.
IE: https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/project-3109 was created in 2004 and was around in real vanilla. It may have been unknown to the point that there weren’t enough people using it most places to work well, but the fact is the vanilla API supported the possible creation of LFG addons and at least one person did make a LFG addon in addition to addons that made inviting people to groups faster or more automated. The zero download count I believe is just on the new site since it was ported from an older site (note the forgeuser#####s it uses as the usernames for the comments and uploader).
People had the freedom to choose to use or not use them then and should now as well.
Here is the thing.
Addons were a large part of Classic.
Yes some are different in their design and what they do as they use the newer LUA but it’s still a part of Classic.
I ran more addons in Classic then I do in retail.
ClassicLFG is great. I used it a few times in beta testing and it seems to work well. It’s basically an alternative to spamming in Trade or other channels, the best part is you don’t have to sit around a city for hours trying to get a group together.
It doesn’t port you into an instance, it doesn’t do cross-server, it doesn’t do auto-matching, it still requires you to communicate with the other players to figure out roles and specs. In short, it lacks the things that make Retail LFG so antisocial.
Let’s let everyone know about it, the more who know the better!
If all your groups are guild groups, why would you ever notice or care that other players were forming pugs in another way? You wouldn’t even be playing with them.
Spam in trade stuck in a city or use an addon and farm in the world… hmm… yup I’m going with the addon, it doesn’t do anything outside not forcing you to sit in cities to spam (and don’t say /4, no one used that)
Ya’ll are acting like this thing is auto invite teleporting you to the crosserver instance, it’s literally solving a major problem with vanilla, jumping around IF/Org spamming for groups.