Support Classes

I like support classes and think Augmentation Evoker was fun 2 problems though they need to give a different symbol to let people know this isn’t a dps class because early on Augmentation Evokers we’re getting booted for lackluster dps. Second problem is they can’t be the only support class in the game. But now it seems they’ve given up on support classes again and just made Augmentation another dps.

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I think they will probably make it another dps and eventually just make aug lend dps to people (not buff healing or tank armor etc).

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they said they want to make more support specs in the future but blizzard is too cowardly to up and change any preexisting specs into support. there could be a case for a 4th spec for some classes or a 3rd spec for dh which is the direction i sort of hope they go in. if we had more support specs i would ideally like to see 5 man party comp go from 1 tank 1 heal 2 dps 1 support.

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Support Hunter.

We finally can do more than just DPS.

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Survival Hunter
Balance Druid
Discipline Priest
Outlaw Rogue

All four could be made into support style classes.

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There’s always the Hero Talents for TWW. Maybe some of the talent combinations will allow for more diverse gameplay.

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They’ll probably change Aug to be a support class just like Enhancement Shaman. Nice to have, but not game-breaking.

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The issue isn’t just that uninformed players were kicking augmentation for low DPS. The issue is that a non-DPS spec filling a DPS position cannot truly be balanced for an entire player base. If it’s good enough to replace a DPS like it needs to do if it’s going to count as a DPS, then it will be overpowered in the hands of good groups and basically worthless in the hands of bad groups. Then it also comes with the risk that every death to a DPS costs the group more output because the aug is only bringing value by buffing those around him; you lose more than 1 DPS worth of output for every DPS that dies.

In order for support specs to truly be balanced, they HAVE to be their own role. But if you do that, then how do you ensure free forming groups bring a support spec compared to additional DPS? This wouldn’t solve the problem unless the group is not capable of starting the content without the requisite number of support and DPS.

The day can’t come soon enough, to be honest.

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just give it time to mature . people are always afraid of change and new ideas. you get comfortable with old and are not open. paladins and shamans were always a support class offering multiple buffs. you will be fine trust me

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Sec. Trying to find my list of buffs I have

Despite 2 of the specs being like…the only 2 in the game with out a raid buff

I am talking through time . TBC raids were bringing a shaman for every group

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I mean what if the support buffed the current dps enough/ did enough of their own dps to make up for the missing DPS

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Thankfully they went away from that mechanic. Quite a while ago.

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They need to implement more support specs. Make it so they give the same buff (called something different for flavor) to balance things. Have different ways to juggle the buff and don’t let them stack.

Personally I’d like to see them switch some specs that already exist rather than add more as it already takes long for the current number of specs to get reworks and concerns addressed. All the classes that currently only have DPS options would be where I would start as it opens some optional gameplay for those classes. Take one spec from Mage, Rogue, Warlock, and maybe Hunter ( survival bring melee is sort of a different play style) and change it to support like Augmentation. That would give 4 or 5 spec options that would allow players that enjoy the support style play more class fantasy.

Nothing more thrilling than homogenization!

Ruining specs that people currently enjoy for a niche role that few people are interested in (especially people already playing pure DPS classes) id a bonehead move.

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I just can’t understand why we’re heading into another m+ season with all 3 dps spots on lock. It should be a different symbol, agreed, because it’s a unique role that no other spec can fill.

I’m really hoping all the “even more” memeing they did at the end of blizzcon is new support classes/specs or this season is already over.

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I wouldn’t say few people are interested in support style play as they’ve introduced it based off many metrics easiest of which is the number of similar forum posts on the topic since the spec was introduced.

As for the similar buff it would be for balance issues as if you gave 4 different specs 4 different buffs with the way they currently have it working it would make one clearly the “best” and for balance reasons that would be unfortunate. You could give different small support spells like shields and heals and the like, but the main stat buff should be the same and not stack.

Far as the change to specs that already exist I too would love to live in a world in which I was confident enough in the class dev team at Blizzard to balance the specs we currently have let alone if you add even more. They seem to take longer to address all classes issues for years now, unless it’s a big one, and change isn’t always bad. If Blizz could swear in blood that they wouldn’t hurt class development times to be even worse then they currently are sure add a few more specs to the classes I mentioned. Only other concern I can think of would be making it unique play and class fantasy within the classes without changing a spec already there.

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Blizz could make the dungeons actually have timers and not just be survival checks…

That design inflate Aug and also hurts low survivability classes like shamans and hunters.