I main Evoker and I love the support-style Augmentation. Supposedly Blizz looks at these forums so in a sea of people complaining about how nobody likes a support-focused spec and “it should’ve been a tank” or “it should be a normal dps”, I am advocating strongly for the team-buff identity of Aug. it is a nuanced but approachable playstyle with a unique spin on how it plays, and getting rid of that identity would be a shame when 26-some other dps classes exist for people who don’t like Aug.
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I’m sure they’re proud of it, and for good reason. I still prefer to be on the damage dealing end myself rather than simply being a living trinket for my party members, but I’ve played it and enjoyed more than I expected to.
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I’m glad Blizzard is starting to change their design preferences away from the basic ‘damage damage damage’ etc type stuff. I love to see new ways to do things, and I’m pleased they’ve started to add support-based specs - definitely hope to see more of it!
I still definitely want an evoker tank spec, but I wouldn’t want to give up aug to get it.
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I literally hate Augmentation for being a support instead of a normal dps
I think the negativity stems from on that perspective is that they should have made devastation use black and blue magic, aug should’ve used black and red magic, pres should’ve used green and red magic, and bronze should’ve been the magic that connected them all. Bronze should’ve been a magic utilized across all specs for defensives, utility,cc,and buffs. That would’ve made Dev so much cooler using the Ebon dragonflight to cataclysmically devastate enemies like deathwing and then pelt them down with blue magic. That’s just how it should’ve went down.
Again I don’t think people don’t like that aug is a support spec. They don’t like how they took what should be the coolest dragon magic and dumped it onto the support spec and not utilized it to its fullest in Dev.
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I don’t really think the vast majority of people form their opinions on the specs based on what color of dragon magic they use…
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If this eventually gets us bards I’m all for Aug. support is an archetype that’s been missing in mmos for too long. It may date me but it was my favorite in daoc and eq… it’s good to see it come.
That said it’d be nice to get maybe two more support types so there’s variety. The main complaint I have is if they are tuned to make a difference they are all but required with no alternative style to fill the void if you dislike the drake aesthetic or theme
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Yeah. Sometimes it’s nice being beyond scrutiny on a dps meter, but most of the time i rather do my own damage. Shame that people out there seem to want aug no matter what. Even though its damage contribution is lesser in every way.
I had a pug warlock the other day say “i didn’t know dev did good dps” to me.
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It won’t
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The main issue comes with the connections of some of these.
Black and Blue don’t inherently work well together, thematically or visually. One is more supportive/subtle in nature, the other is raw arcane power.
Black and Red would work as a tank or fortification/healer spec, but not as a damage-oriented support. Bronze and Black fit better here.
Preservation does actually lean heavily into both Red and Green magic, it’s just got a good dose of Bronze thrown in. The other two specs emphasize two flights heavily, Prevoker emphasizes three.
Aug was a mistake.
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So was your tmog.
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They still haven’t fixed it. It’s wild.
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The problem with aug is that it effects those 26 other classes you noted. If it only affected itself, no one would care. However, because now raids have to have 2 augs to be optimal it causes issues with people who already struggle getting a raid spot.
Additionally, and this is my personal take, I wonder how many people would play aug if it was not “S” or “A” tier anymore. What if the spec was just dogwater bad would people still play it? Right now, it is still in a good spot even after “nerfs” and it’s causing the spec to be a flavor of the month for several months.
Aug was a mistake in a game that really only cares about numbers. They could ideally fix it by making the additional dmg another class does b/c of aug become only aug dmg on the dps meters/logs. But, once again, I personally think people play the spec because it’s easy and somewhat op still. Having augs really show up on dps meters would somewhat deter people from playing it, since others would be able to easily distinguish good vs bad augs.
Easy fix = Scrap the spec and give cheat death and reduced threat to devastation and rework the spec into a tank.
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Aug isn’t S or even A tier for almost any content…
It’s incredible how slowly community perception catches up to the game, lol.
Don’t agree the spec needs to be scrapped, but defy fate, spatial paradox, and timelessness definitely need a shift to the class tree 100%. Literally all three evoker class capstone talents should just be baseline to evoker and could be replaced by those.
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Yo, I am late to the party so forgive the necro, but I recently came back and picked up Evoker to try out Augmentation and man… I really like it.
See, I believe it’s chronic depression related, but I don’t really feel good “accomplishing” things in games often, for example, when I kill a boss in Souls games I don’t really feel good about it, it doesn’t matter if it took me 20 something tries or I somehow got it first try, I just continue feeling the stress but not the supposed dopamine hit I should be getting from it.
Well, the same applies to DPSing in WoW, getting first place or parsing well did nothing to me, which always made raiding a struggle. I tried healing but I found too stressful while tanking was kinda boring with premades as well as way too punishing and anxiety inducing in pugs. Augmentation is in the perfect middle ground though, the rotation is simple so I am not there sweating trying to squeeze out as much DPS as I can only to not feel good about it later, nor I have to deal with the two other roles I simply don’t enjoy.
Also, as a bonus, I tend to always play supports in games, never healer, mind, but utility driven support, the more out of the box the gameplay is, the more engaging I find it, like Abathur in HoTS.
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I also really enjoy Aug spec, and I’m happy to be in a role that feels like a hybrid again. One of my favorite memories from vanilla was playing a druid healer in ZF and having a Save-the-day moment when a stairs pull went wrong. I was throwing out hots, rooting and taunting mobs, sleeping a basilisk, and b-rezzing the tank that went down, ultimately keeping everyone alive long enough to regain control of things.
Aug gives me that same feeling. I’m throwing out group buffs, DRs, heals, rescue shields, stuns/knocks, the occasional CC or engi battle rez… and i feel like i’m able to do all these things because of my toolkit and not being pressured to build, plan, and play for DPS above all else.
I don’t care much about seeing giant numbers (though I do admit it’s fun when it happens), but I love the feeling of bouncing between what’s needed and helping out however I can. “Support” is a fun, dynamic role to me and I love playing it.
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loving the support aspect
loving making other players better
probably going to play aug even when it falls out of favor
but please god either make us melee or full ranged
melee aug would be sick
(also would love to have viable half-heal aug that can fit and perform in raid the same way half-dps does)
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I have a thing for support classes and they’ve always interested me. I’ve wanted a support class in WoW for years and this spec is right up my alley and simply adore this spec. In fact Evoker is the only class that I love all 3 specs on. I really only have a single issue with it… people who don’t understand the playstyle or simply hate the spec demanding it be changed.
The people who hate the spec complain they want it changed to become a tank spec do irritate me though. The simple way to fix this issue would be to make a 4th spec for Evoker to allow them to be a tank. Could be a blue aspect class based around using magic to tank. Changing augmentation, a clearly unique spec would be terrible, because there isn’t another type of class like it in the game that fills this niche for the players like myself who genuinely love the role it fills. If anything they need to make another class/race that has 4 specs like Druid, and this would be the one to do it on.
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I think Evoker was a weird class/race to give the first true support spec to, but I’m glad there is one.
I want blizzard to add more, and make it a true role within the game. I’ve wanted a Bard Class for literally over 15 years. If they renege and just make it a tank spec, I’ll be crushed.
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