soo thats why Max isnt watching firedup anymore was he ban or something?
Except this isnât true. I follow a couple speed running games including some that have quarterly tournaments of various kinds and in every one of them they list if certain glitches or exploits are allowed or not (like wall/map clipping and such) and in a tournament setting or even just going for a placement or record, if your submitted run gets reviewed and find you did violate the spirit of the race, you get disqualified at a minimum (and in harsher circles, blacklisted or banned from the community).
You can certainly argue that the devs shouldnât release buggy spells or content, but there can be an understanding of how a spell is intended to function and any deviation outside of that can be considered exploitingâŠand when you play at the tippy top of the content ladder, you have absolutely no defense in arguing ignorance. These are people who literally have access to the devs directly in certain circles.
And letâs not even pretend this is the first or even worst exploit being used/abused. These scummy world first types know they have effective immunity from real consequences.
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Its like soccer really.
2 teams with 2 dudes rolling on around on the ground in extreme pain on small infractions.
Players who forget something called video with telephoto lenses exists.
We see in the video them in pain, in pain, in painâŠa moment of no pain as they look up to see if the ref is buying itâŠand back to in pain again.
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I mean, if it was reported during the beta and Blizzard did nothing, then working as intended.
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If I knew that by pushing a certain combination of buttons on an ATM led to the machine spitting out all the money it holds like it shows in the movies with no impact on my bank account, I donât get to do it freely without consequence and argue the manufacturer clearly intended it.
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The big question is why people even care. Something Iâll never understand. /shrug
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its a game, people werenât banned from mop:remix for jumping through walls and clearing content quickly⊠but apparently because that content didnât âmatterâ nobody cared.
I think its hypocritical in general to care about people abusing bugs, but just those bugs, the other bugs are fine.
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And while weâre at it do away with it period and make the mythic raid bosses as they should be and not an over tuned mess ment only for the 1%
Itâs all stupid and itâs actually hilariously stupid they are being watched by all wow and heâs cheating and using an exploit.
Hope the ban is worth it lol
Not only him but the whole raid knew he was doing it. So by having him in doing so they show they support exploiting in RWF as a raid team.
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Dont think he got ban
Arguably there are three sides to this; exploiting, not exploiting, and nebulous but responsibility is on Blizzard regardless.
The third option is essentially just getting more granular about how or why something happened (coding error vs unintended interaction, for example) but ultimately taking a stance that responsibility lies on Blizzard for not solving it at least with a short term solution to buy time to fix it more fully.
Iâm in this group, because I dislike when Blizzard punishes players for these sorts of things. But Iâm also open to admitting itâs an exploit, in some instances.
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âyetâ
Ten char.
WoW doesnât get to have the luxury of calling itself a tryhard esport and not also be free of responsibility of having the content where âworld firstsâ are tracked also not subject to cries of foul play when the teams are using exploits/cheats/hacks to win.
Nobody cares about remix because there was no competition and plenty of people cried about the hyperspawn abusers and their ill-deserved early day gains anyway.
Most likely wont be either
I donât think blizz has to morally grandstand with all of its bans, its odd that thatâs how its being argued⊠in a sense. Like people should stop trying to say because blizz did this, they must do this.
Its like saying because renown is renowned to some people as their âendgameâ banning renown gain abusers was justified. I donât think a single item from renown abuse wouldâve been present this last tuesday in difficult content. Cleverly abusing gains so you can get a 1-4 ilvl advantage for 1/3 content difficulties available (before the gain is obsolete) is ridiculous imo, but thats hardly relative to this thread.
Blizz has been pretty good on keeping disconnected from the rwf as much as they are capable. Like microsoft streams one of the biggest streaming events for a subscriber to one of their services, on an amazon site, All Iâm saying with that is Iâm on the side where if you want to throw saronite bombs before blizz patches it, its on blizz to fix it. If rwf is for a niche crowd that observes it from a third party unaffiliated with the the company hosting the event, maybe the crowds opinions doesnât really matter. If the rwf wants to uphold some sort of standard they can put a little asterisk on wow progress and pat themselves on the back, but thats for people in that small crowd to make individual decisions on. I think its cool blizz wants to make the fights interesting for people who prog them, but thatâs not just for the rwf guys, but now people are starting to turn abusing bugs into some sort of account penalty⊠because it will hurt the race, affect another player?
funny thing is, if blizzard banned for stuff like that ever, theyâd probably stop, but since blizzard doesnât, they kind of have to, because if they donât the other team will
Also, the exploit in question here didnât really even amount to anything so theres that
Firedup wonât be actioned for âabusing a bug.â He was playing normally. It may have been exploiting the bug in a technical sense, but the standard for abuse is going out of your way to do abnormal things.
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and now they went dark mode
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I heard a rumor someone on the Blizz team went out of their way to get one of the mythic bosses nerfed during the race which ended up allowing it to be killed by one of teams competing. If anyone needs context I believe it was a WoWhead post but Iâm not sure if Iâm allowed to link things here
The Nexus Princess kill had 3 Sunfury Arcane mages, no Spellslingers. Either the bug wasnât working in their favor or Blizzard threatened them if they kept using it. Either way, the kill was made legitimately without using exploits.
this is why we cant have nice things.