SuperData says WoW’s player count is already ‘back to normal levels’ post-Shadowlands

There is some evidence. Going into BFA a tokens value was about 250k. Going into SL its was about 110k. Now its about 130k. That means tokens have been bought a lot more now than an expansion ago. Although the value of the token is slowly going up. I think ~20k since launch. Less are being bought now than 3 months ago.
Tokens may not be their big profit center per sae now but all of their shop sales as a whole is likely to be a huge part of their profits.

Also in your last few posts you are talking out both sides of your mouth. One side says… its completely normal to lose a ton of subs after a launch. The other side says… its bad to lose subscribers.

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Not really. That drop was from people attempting to use tokens to buy the Brutosaur. The market was flooded as a result, so the gold price dropped considerably. Now that price is slowly increasing, which means that the supply of tokens is slowly decreasing.

It’s going to take some time for the gold price for tokens to their BFA levels.

Tokens generate some profit, absolutely, but it’s not the core of their profits. That will always be subscribers in WoW. Even 1 million subscribers generates $15 million+ a month for them, and by most estimates, WoW has… around 4-5 million subscribers? Give or take. Meaning that per month they’re making around $60-75 million.

Sounds about right. Blizzard generated a total of $1.79 billion in revenues from what they call external customers during 2020.

Who knows how accurate Superdata’s research is but if it is correct, that’s not a good sign. Despite covid, Blizzard only generated a 6.5% increase in revenues in 2020. That number included the digital download and box sales revenue for Shadowlands.

Makes you wonder if the pandemic didn’t happen, would Blizzard’s revenues have shown negative growth?

By contrast, Activision Publishing increased revenues from external customers by an amazing 43.7% to $3.9 billion! The covid pandemic was very good for CoD.

Apparently WoW’s player population drops by half every year based on popular opinion. Maybe that’s why it hasn’t gotten to zero yet.

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You really think 4-5 million subs? lmao they would lucky to have 2 million atm and going down fast.

Take your tinfoil theories out of here, thanks.

Not only is there zero evidence to support that subscriber numbers have dropped that low, multiple investor calls have stated that WoW has shown growth. 6 back to back quarters in a row.

And before you say “They’re lying.” there’s no evidence to support that either, and lying to investors is bad, and could open up Activision-Blizzard to lawsuits, which they don’t want to deal with.

Thats why their stocks took a nose dive? doh.

You don’t know how the stock market works do you?

This is just as pointless as the data that the op is so fixated on.

If you understood the stock market at all, you’d understand that dips in stock are extremely common.

In the past 8 hours Activision-Blizzard stock has risen and fallen 79 times. Sometimes up, sometimes down. Looking at a single day or even a few days of stock movements and claiming that a company is doing poorly because of that is stupid. The same is true with the reverse. Just because a company has amazing stock, doesn’t mean their company is doing well. Gamestop’s performance for example has been flagging for years, stores losing money, lack of business etc. But if you looked at the stock over the past few weeks you wouldn’t see that, because Redditors worked together to boost the stock to screw over some hedge funds.

No excuses sorry

Same to you no excuses people are selling their stocks

That’s not an excuse, that’s reality. Stocks go up and down all the time. It doesn’t mean what you think it does.

I get that doesn’t support the narrative you and the OP are desperately trying to grasp for straws to spin, but that’s how reality works sometimes.

You’re right. No excuses. Ignorance isn’t one. Get some knowledge about how the stock market works before you start trying to use it as some sort of crutch for your nonsensical arguments.

No comment the point this game is taking a BIG NOSE DIVE and people are getting out before it’s too late.

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Only in your mind.

Which has already been shown to be unsound given that you believe in foolish theories with no supporting evidence.

k fair call but I know I’m right so enjoy your World of Empty Warcraft. It’s happening.

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Kinda feels like their target audience is China now, or Asia in general. Looking at the store mounts plus numerous other things, including Vulpera, just comes off as them only goiing after the biggest demographic now.

Kinda makes sense. Why make a game for people who constantly berate and belittle everything you do when you can make more money on a market with way more players?

Yes true and it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if they sell of wow to China after this Xpac is finished. For BIG DOLLARS too.

Ah! Well…that’s the current state of wow back then from cata…A continues decline!!!

Great ppl were working on wow content then came the parasite Activision with it a blood sucking Bobby too drain every core of what wow once was…
Morhime had a vision as well as his team but then there it ended for them.

SL looks less and less WoW and more equivalent to some low budget marvel game, with it’s crappy story, butchered characters and unbalance gameplay with bugs , features to waste more time for players.

Compared to wow, FFXIV does pour their love for their product. Hence, the playerbase is rising in FFXIV…

I for one, loved wow but this isn’t wow anymore…need a game that’s equal to wow or that universe. For that game is, definitely not ESO but baldurs gate!

Also, I feel Diablo is going in the right direction for the community outcry during blizzcon 2018.
That’s all it takes for getting a good product it seems. So, the true fault lies is the community for not taking up arms and protesting blizzard nonsense.

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No endgame for PVE because of pvp gearing, M+ being in one of the worst states that it’s ever been in because of FoTM classes + target caps, no soul ash catch up, no alt catch up period unless you get carried in pvp.

Man, it sure is a mystery as to why people are quitting!

If valor launches like it is on the PTR it will be one of the most pointless things they’ve ever added to the game. It would take you 4 weeks to upgrade a 2h weapon from 210 to 220 ilvl assuming that you capped every single week.

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