Not sure if this is the right section for this. I wanted to see what you all think of this. RP-PvP is one of those things that has to be planned and organized. A number of guilds commonly hold organized RP-PvP events between them and other groups or guilds or just wpvp. Some of these will also help RP out just in general.
1. Opt in option for cross faction whispering and discussion. Available for war-games and WM off PvP. Some people in their RP aren't even apart of the horde or alliance.
2. For war-games, allow opposing faction players to join a party to que for a war-game. Like maybe a bunch of belfs and selfs in one team. Same goes with WM off open world pvp.
3. Customizable scaling, spell damage and disabling spells for war-games and stuff like that.
4. The ability to open world flag to be attacked by anyone regardless of faction with WM off. This can help with RP for groups that don't RP as apart of horde or alliance.
Things like this would be really helpful for improving RP-PvP capabilities.
EDIT: Acialga. Right I forgot to mention that.
5. Bring back old world pvp for at least realm ED.
6. Bring back world defense.
Simplest thing they could do is remove warmode an bring back our rppvp servers, and remove LFG outside of instances.
Or bring back world defense. Rppvp took a nose dive with removal of it as they effectively eliminated guild bases and attacks with it.
Or bring back world defense. Rppvp took a nose dive with removal of it as they effectively eliminated guild bases and attacks with it.
11/08/2018 10:19 PMPosted by AcialgaSimplest thing they could do is remove warmode an bring back our rppvp servers, and remove LFG outside of instances.
Or bring back world defense. Rppvp took a nose dive with removal of it as they effectively eliminated guild bases and attacks with it.
I've this strong suspicion that whoever is in charge isn't really a fan of pvp.
Wait now. Just wait. I’ve been gone for 5 years and wpvp is what made ED stand well above any server that Blizzard had. You were flagged regardless and that is what made this server so much fun.
You always stood the chance of getting stomped on when out and about. When out questing or doing daily’s running into horde was either watching them from afar while doing your thing or attacking them and beginning a tug of war that would either last minutes or sometimes even hours.
Open work pvp is the most amazing experience in this game and was the draw of ED for many.
So all servers now can toggle war-mode on and off? So you can decide whether or not to be flagged out in the world? So what is the point of pvp servers or am I missing something?
Like I stated before I have been gone for a very long time and I am just seeing lay of the land so to speak if I want to return.
You always stood the chance of getting stomped on when out and about. When out questing or doing daily’s running into horde was either watching them from afar while doing your thing or attacking them and beginning a tug of war that would either last minutes or sometimes even hours.
Open work pvp is the most amazing experience in this game and was the draw of ED for many.
So all servers now can toggle war-mode on and off? So you can decide whether or not to be flagged out in the world? So what is the point of pvp servers or am I missing something?
Like I stated before I have been gone for a very long time and I am just seeing lay of the land so to speak if I want to return.
11/09/2018 05:03 AMPosted by ThankusWait now. Just wait. I’ve been gone for 5 years and wpvp is what made ED stand well above any server that Blizzard had. You were flagged regardless and that is what made this server so much fun.
You always stood the chance of getting stomped on when out and about. When out questing or doing daily’s running into horde was either watching them from afar while doing your thing or attacking them and beginning a tug of war that would either last minutes or sometimes even hours.
Open work pvp is the most amazing experience in this game and was the draw of ED for many.
So all servers now can toggle war-mode on and off? So you can decide whether or not to be flagged out in the world? So what is the point of pvp servers or am I missing something?
Like I stated before I have been gone for a very long time and I am just seeing lay of the land so to speak if I want to return.
There are no PvP or RP-PvP servers anymore - just "Normal" and "RP" servers.
When you turn on War Mode, you are put into a PvP shard with everyone else who has War Mode on, and are always flagged - including in territory controlled by your faction (such as Elwynn Forest and Durotar). We are usually placed into a shard with other RP servers such as the former RP-PvP servers, Argent Dawn, WRA and so on.
It's been a tough adjustment but there's still a lot of WPvP out there if you prefer small-scale stuff. We also don't shard with other realms in older zones, so the old map is still "ED-only".
11/09/2018 05:14 AMPosted by Nearo11/09/2018 05:03 AMPosted by ThankusWait now. Just wait. I’ve been gone for 5 years and wpvp is what made ED stand well above any server that Blizzard had. You were flagged regardless and that is what made this server so much fun.
You always stood the chance of getting stomped on when out and about. When out questing or doing daily’s running into horde was either watching them from afar while doing your thing or attacking them and beginning a tug of war that would either last minutes or sometimes even hours.
Open work pvp is the most amazing experience in this game and was the draw of ED for many.
So all servers now can toggle war-mode on and off? So you can decide whether or not to be flagged out in the world? So what is the point of pvp servers or am I missing something?
Like I stated before I have been gone for a very long time and I am just seeing lay of the land so to speak if I want to return.
There are no PvP or RP-PvP servers anymore - just "Normal" and "RP" servers.
When you turn on War Mode, you are put into a PvP shard with everyone else who has War Mode on, and are always flagged - including in territory controlled by your faction (such as Elwynn Forest and Durotar). We are usually placed into a shard with other RP servers such as the former RP-PvP servers, Argent Dawn, WRA and so on.
It's been a tough adjustment but there's still a lot of WPvP out there if you prefer small-scale stuff. We also don't shard with other realms in older zones, so the old map is still "ED-only".
They basically took away what made realm ED so amazing. I honestly have this odd feeling that whoever is in charge just really doesn't like pvp. They even expressed disinterest in adding pvp vendors back wanting to focus on the PvE scene right now.
Old ED:
Warmode: OFF
PVP: ON
stay out of BFA zones...
been wanting to try this with larger groups in BFA zones to see if there's a greater chance to not shard. Any volunteers?
Warmode: OFF
PVP: ON
stay out of BFA zones...
been wanting to try this with larger groups in BFA zones to see if there's a greater chance to not shard. Any volunteers?
Ion Hazzikostas is a raiding nerd. He was the honcho over at Elitist Jerks back in the day. He looks at the game and all it's systems through myopically PvE lenses.
Here's his main:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/malganis/gurgthock
From the looks of it, he PvPed up until Cataclysm and stopped, barely doing any PvP since.
Here's his main:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/malganis/gurgthock
From the looks of it, he PvPed up until Cataclysm and stopped, barely doing any PvP since.
11/09/2018 05:03 AMPosted by ThankusWait now. Just wait. I’ve been gone for 5 years and wpvp is what made ED stand well above any server that Blizzard had. You were flagged regardless and that is what made this server so much fun.
You always stood the chance of getting stomped on when out and about. When out questing or doing daily’s running into horde was either watching them from afar while doing your thing or attacking them and beginning a tug of war that would either last minutes or sometimes even hours.
Open work pvp is the most amazing experience in this game and was the draw of ED for many.
So all servers now can toggle war-mode on and off? So you can decide whether or not to be flagged out in the world? So what is the point of pvp servers or am I missing something?
Like I stated before I have been gone for a very long time and I am just seeing lay of the land so to speak if I want to return.
Devilclaw Outlaws!?! That's a blast from the past!
11/09/2018 07:41 AMPosted by Vischy11/09/2018 05:03 AMPosted by ThankusWait now. Just wait. I’ve been gone for 5 years and wpvp is what made ED stand well above any server that Blizzard had. You were flagged regardless and that is what made this server so much fun.
You always stood the chance of getting stomped on when out and about. When out questing or doing daily’s running into horde was either watching them from afar while doing your thing or attacking them and beginning a tug of war that would either last minutes or sometimes even hours.
Open work pvp is the most amazing experience in this game and was the draw of ED for many.
So all servers now can toggle war-mode on and off? So you can decide whether or not to be flagged out in the world? So what is the point of pvp servers or am I missing something?
Like I stated before I have been gone for a very long time and I am just seeing lay of the land so to speak if I want to return.
Devilclaw Outlaws!?! That's a blast from the past!
Yes I joined them after Kingship Of The East we’re finally gone for good. They were a good RP guild at the time but were willing to always respond to Alliance getting picked on out and about.
Sounds like world pvp still happens. Small scale stuff is fun as well. Small scale usually doesn’t turn into a Zerg fest too.
I just remember the old AEC raids, hence why I started making the pvp movies to showcase the wpvp on Emerald Dream.
Hmmmmm, I might have to upgrade and toss my hat and camera back into the foray here......
I miss world pvp. Lolol. I am an experienced world pvp healer. That’s all I did. Hahaha. I always made sure Hinik was kept alive.
I shudder to think what mine looks like as i stay away from bg/arena and i boosted this instead of faction changing my undead one :( maybe ill try arena this xpac, i mean, cant be terrible i could probably get the lowest rank11/09/2018 07:38 AMPosted by NearoIon Hazzikostas is a raiding nerd. He was the honcho over at Elitist Jerks back in the day. He looks at the game and all it's systems through myopically PvE lenses.
Here's his main:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/malganis/gurgthock
From the looks of it, he PvPed up until Cataclysm and stopped, barely doing any PvP since.
11/08/2018 10:19 PMPosted by AcialgaSimplest thing they could do is remove warmode an bring back our rppvp servers, and remove LFG outside of instances.
Or bring back world defense. Rppvp took a nose dive with removal of it as they effectively eliminated guild bases and attacks with it.
Kkhaoz supports this post and opinion by Acialga……………
just saying...………………
kk
first the organized stuff isn't wat everyone is whining about... everyone knows how to do that... and its not really broken to be fixed.... wat everyone is whining about is the not organized wpvp where they either get stuck in a lag battle or get ran over because guild A had their guild nite and took their members to city A and ran over everyone, or they made a defense raid and it started a lag battle, or they were on the receiving end of a defense raid that started a lag battle... or unfair sides, or lagging out due to the game not being able to handle the numbers in general...
for the smaller groups that cant reach the bigger groups I have nothing for ya... u get ran over...happens to us all...
for the groups that are too big to the point where if a same number opposition will guarantee lag... lag is gona happen... cause blizzard will not spend the money to upgrade to a point where they might stop it...
and finally on the topic of lag... if u like it... u do it... if u don't … u don't...
in conclusion... lag sucks and some are willing to put up with it for a win... some will ignore and piss ppl off that want them to defend.... deal with watever side ur on... next... u cant ask a big guild to not bring the members that want to come out for their guild nite… so u got to deal with watever they do with their guild... u don't have to fight them... and if ur willing to put up with the results of wanting to fight them then go ahead, but ur not going to get ppl to do something they don't like to do... like lag... wsb is gone so upright harassment doesn't really occur... and no d7 and isr droping 2 defense raids is not harassment... that is a defense raid.... or 2... the best fix lies with blizzard upgrades... but I don't see that happening... or everyone being willing to keep groups down to 1 raid and if u have more then split into smaller raids... but I don't see that happening either...
for the smaller groups that cant reach the bigger groups I have nothing for ya... u get ran over...happens to us all...
for the groups that are too big to the point where if a same number opposition will guarantee lag... lag is gona happen... cause blizzard will not spend the money to upgrade to a point where they might stop it...
and finally on the topic of lag... if u like it... u do it... if u don't … u don't...
in conclusion... lag sucks and some are willing to put up with it for a win... some will ignore and piss ppl off that want them to defend.... deal with watever side ur on... next... u cant ask a big guild to not bring the members that want to come out for their guild nite… so u got to deal with watever they do with their guild... u don't have to fight them... and if ur willing to put up with the results of wanting to fight them then go ahead, but ur not going to get ppl to do something they don't like to do... like lag... wsb is gone so upright harassment doesn't really occur... and no d7 and isr droping 2 defense raids is not harassment... that is a defense raid.... or 2... the best fix lies with blizzard upgrades... but I don't see that happening... or everyone being willing to keep groups down to 1 raid and if u have more then split into smaller raids... but I don't see that happening either...
I keep hearing about lag?
I know it is a part of any mmog but back then, large skirmished broke out all the time with no above average lag. I mean a 40 vs 40 would pop off like nothing. Lol
I know it is a part of any mmog but back then, large skirmished broke out all the time with no above average lag. I mean a 40 vs 40 would pop off like nothing. Lol
11/08/2018 09:32 PMPosted by GnomestNot sure if this is the right section for this. I wanted to see what you all think of this. RP-PvP is one of those things that has to be planned and organized. A number of guilds commonly hold organized RP-PvP events between them and other groups or guilds or just wpvp. Some of these will also help RP out just in general.
1. Opt in option for cross faction whispering and discussion. Available for war-games and WM off PvP. Some people in their RP aren't even apart of the horde or alliance.
2. For war-games, allow opposing faction players to join a party to que for a war-game. Like maybe a bunch of belfs and selfs in one team. Same goes with WM off open world pvp.
3. Customizable scaling, spell damage and disabling spells for war-games and stuff like that.
4. The ability to open world flag to be attacked by anyone regardless of faction with WM off. This can help with RP for groups that don't RP as apart of horde or alliance.
Things like this would be really helpful for improving RP-PvP capabilities.
EDIT: Acialga. Right I forgot to mention that.
5. Bring back old world pvp for at least realm ED.
6. Bring back world defense.
So OK Gnomie
I am reaching out to BLIZZ now and lett8ing them know with my $15 monthly support...………………..
THAT I SUPPORT GNOMIE and great suggestions...............
STOP MESSING WITH WPVP...................
MOST of us ONLY played the game for the Server specific WPVP and rivalries that existed, were created, and were manufactured.............
GOOD POST Gnomie.........................
just saying.........................
kk
11/09/2018 12:44 PMPosted by ThankusI keep hearing about lag?
I know it is a part of any mmog but back then, large skirmished broke out all the time with no above average lag. I mean a 40 vs 40 would pop off like nothing. Lol
40v40 is still doable....but there are a few guilds out there that are bigger than that on a regular basis... and since they might lose with only 40... they bring 60 or 80... or they just have that many ppl show up for their guild nite and they just run with whoever shows up... no one splits thier forces for the sake of saving lag...
There's already a functional system in place for pvp. The only thing that needs to be fixed is !@#$ty server lag in large scale. But that's it.
Scripted/dice pvp is a no no from me.
Scripted/dice pvp is a no no from me.
More Sandbox, Organic WPvP would be the my suggestion. There is a way to incorporate RP and WPvP and have it be glorious.
In terms of organized/scripted, the only things i would ask of my enemy was where to meet up and how many to bring. I would ask for the same courtesy we do to not corpse camp but i dont expect it from our enemies. If you guys corpse camp us, you are the honorless bad guys in that RP scenario.
Pvp problems, even RP-PvP require PvP solutions.
*To clarify, The Ashen Vale will work with anyone to help them with their RP-PvP storylines etc, but we wont get triggered if you filthy Horde decide to be the honorless dogs you are and play dirty. We expect it <3
In terms of organized/scripted, the only things i would ask of my enemy was where to meet up and how many to bring. I would ask for the same courtesy we do to not corpse camp but i dont expect it from our enemies. If you guys corpse camp us, you are the honorless bad guys in that RP scenario.
Pvp problems, even RP-PvP require PvP solutions.
*To clarify, The Ashen Vale will work with anyone to help them with their RP-PvP storylines etc, but we wont get triggered if you filthy Horde decide to be the honorless dogs you are and play dirty. We expect it <3
For #1 a community group exist cross faction, which helps with that.
Not allowing cross server grouping besides crzd servers would greatly increase and aid it as well