Whatever Mogo wants, Mogo gets.
Give Gilneas to the horde you already have so many chairs we have so little
so here i am, a blood elf, a creature of indeterminate lifespan that can apparently reach into the thousands
we were longtime allies of the humans and interacted with them often and freely on an individual and state level
know what languages i speak??? thalassian and orcish. honestly at this point i choose to believe that the blood elves all willfully forgot it out of raw spite, because that is easy to relate to
I forget lots of things out of spite
i do a lot of things out of spite
to myself, mainly
what’s this thread about/what’d i miss, someone give me the rundown
it’s funny i just read all 200+ posts and have already forgotten the general gist of it, perhaps out of spite
The summary:
OP makes post asking for changes, using Elder Scrolls Online as a reference.
Multiple people post some variant of “it won’t happen / ESO actually listens to their RP community / etc”.
OP goes “no negativity here only positivity cause that’s the only way things will change” and dismisses anyone posting a negative opinion (…despite the fact that we’ve already tried being positive on cross-faction communication with no strings attached and all we got was a potion which only translates /say, not /emote, and requires both factions to drink the potion to interact with one another).
OP additionally tries to claim that Blizzard does listen to positivity by linking to their own thread on wanting blood elf eyes fixed, saying that their topic (and the posts in it) was the only reason it got fixed.
A third party notes that someone voicing a negative opinion is posting on a non-WrA character, which OP gleefully clamps onto as an excuse to ignore the non-WrA character’s comments.
The non-WrA character tries to continue participating in the thread, only to get passive-aggressively yelled at and dismissed by the third party.
Things devolved further from there – At one point, OP changed the title of the thread in a way that broke the rules (Naming and Shaming in particular), then hurriedly edited it to the “Give Common to both factions” title the thread has now.
The tl;dr of the summary:
OP made thread with an exceedingly naive opinion/idea, gets rightfully called out, someone else blamed off server trolls (despite the “off server troll” having a WrA character), all hell broke loose.
EDIT: Added another line about what OP was doing.
EDIT 2: Changed misleading parts of the above post. Admittedly, I made the post while moderately past my usual bed time, and I also came into the topic a little late, so I only glossed over the first 50 or so posts for OP’s posts while making this one and went one by one from there. I do still stand by my statement of the third party making a passive aggressive shutdown though.
Oh, on a related note, the original topic title was uh… Something about adding RP-server exclusive perks, one of which was presumably “Give common to both factions/have both factions understand each other”.
While this thread kinda… hit the fan so to speak, there were a few good ideas posted in the thread. Let me go back and find them.
Keep that filthy human language outta here.
Now… if everyone can speak orcish…
imgur.com/M9so2bF
found the male orc poster
wait
I consider Orcish to be common, essentially, and lorewise i consider both sides speak common just fine.
I am however, a supporter of keeping the faction language barrier in place and breaking it with the potion, that ensures that cross faction communication is consensual between both sides. If you don’t want to hear the other faction, you can click off the potion.
If you do however want to RP with them, you can. The potion was the best thing for RP in that regard, while protecting players from cross faction harassment and belittlement.
Okay, here’s a compilation of the useful ideas I saw earlier in the thread:
(The removed instance population limit would probably be a great idea when combined with the “Tourism Mode” idea shown above.)
(Phasing can definitely be an issue, particularly in Stonetalon Mountains [the horde questline where the horde player unwittingly helps with committing war crimes] and some Northrend zones.)
(WrA and MG are too high population to be merged together… among other issues, but the smaller RP realms would probably benefit from more server merges.)
(While wanting to keep roleplaying players together is nice and all, the weird hybrid of warmode off and on being merged together in Stormwind/Orgrimmar is a little problematic. Horde players have formed raids with the express purpose of disrupting RP in Stormwind by slaughtering NPCs and flagged players, but GM’s can’t really do anything about it since Stormwind is considered as War Mode Off and On, and thus requires a PvP solution on the part of the Alliance.)
[Editing mine, to include the quote in question]
(A good concern, which may or may not be my fault – Their later post specified people trying to abuse RP server exclusive perks, and boy do I like breaking things For fun and not personal gain, of course!)
(I addressed this earlier, but I think there’s a mechanical or technical limitation that makes this impossible. If Blizzard could get this to work, it’d be really neat, though)
Both of these would be fun idea’s. I have an Orc who has reasons why he might like to be in Stormwind, one day, being married to a Human and all.
Plus, it could do a lot of good in… slowly but surely, burning some of the weird toxicity away from WoW.
thank. I saw someone talking about Levington being from Moon Guard and thus he doesn’t matter which was weird since he’s posted here + about having his main here for literal years?
otherwise im going back to bed peace
Not at all, there were others involved. I never said I was the only reason why it got fixed, but I initiated it. I’m still not sure why I’m getting slammed on this. It wasn’t just the topic either, it was using the in-game suggestions as well as opening a ticket with gm’s and attaching a screenshot of the issue. A decent amount of work went into it so I’m not sure why you’re trying to discredit me.
As a few have stated before, I was just exhausted from listening to people saying Blizzard doesn’t care, nor makes changes. It doesn’t help anything. I never gleefully clamped onto using him as a non-WrA player as an excuse to ignore him.
You all literally hijacked my thread? Which I’m pretty sure breaks the rules as well.
It was at least an hour later. I wasn’t in a hurry at all.
I was also called abrasive, chiding, a Blizzard employee, a troll, miserable, rude, naive, combative, condescending, nasty, and dismissive. I’m pretty sure some of these are against the rules of name calling. Perhaps I was a little naive in the beginning, but I was met with abrasive replies from a few people. People don’t understand the concept of you get what you give. Some of your summary is fair, but a lot of it comes across as biased and one-sided. It doesn’t tell the whole story.
like i can see how it was messed up that, in typical form, the wra forums ended up devolving into another mess like this. it happens more than you think, on multiple threads, even threads that aren’t bad. of course, when it comes to bad threads where its an OP trying to garner attention and brag about things, its funny to derail and start talking about positive things in the face of the OP’s unwarranted negativity.
your thread started out fairly good. and while you definitely still cant realize that you didnt help derailing the crazy train and basically invited the typical trouble-makers, i can also say that i’m decently disgusted that the narrative somehow shifted completely to blame you? and not the whole chain of off-topic, egoistic garbage that happened midway through the thread?
and now we’re at the point where all we’re getting is “oh woe is me” or “here’s my narrative on everything that happened”. you messed up, OP, but so did a lot of other people here. i think this is a good commentary of the myriad problems on the forums, these days. a lot of you have your hearts in the right places, but maybe you should consider for a moment: “Maybe don’t?”
My anecdote was meant to serve as an example of how to go about making suggestions. There’s a way to do it, almost a formula. You can’t just say, “We want this!” and give absolutely no background information or reasoning behind it. Blizzard won’t listen to that. When people responded to me saying, “We’ve been asking for things for ten years and never got them!” They never once gave me an example of something they’ve been asking for. I’m talking specifics. My anecdote is specific. Asking for Common across factions is specific. Vague reactionary replies serve no purpose in the grand scheme of things. I’ll admit I made the mistake of replying to them in the first place, which I shouldn’t have.
I’ll admit that I became negative, but only after I received negativity first. You can go back and read through it. I completely started out positive. I didn’t start this post thinking, “you know what, I really want to start a forum post today and get into an argument with people.”
I don’t care about the arguments, they’re not important. Nobody is going to remember them. Guess what, I remember the time a group of us got female blood elf eyes fixed. If we get Common implemented across factions, people will remember that as well.
i wasnt implying you were here to brag, because like i was trying to make clear, your thread started out positive.
word from the wise. think more before you type, and reconsider your stance.