From gathering them on Live after the new meta achievement was revealed, I can give the following pointers on things that will be impossible or extremely difficult to do due to the content being outdated or being unnecessarily annoying.
Please ADD TO THIS. If you find another achievement needed for the Meta that’s too outdated, or something that could really see change, ADD TO THIS POST! I’ve only added the ones that I came across, and I had half the meta finished.
Tell Me A Tale. This achievement requires you to collect all of the rare quest drops from Island Expeditions. I farmed my last one, the Wiggling Mass, for months on end back in BFA, with no luck. The RNG on this one is brutal. Suggested change: Require x amount of quest items instead of all.
Notorious: Win 50 PVP Island Expeditions. Calm down folks, a Dev on X already confirmed this one is likely an oversight and will be removed. But just incase… Suggested change: Remove.
The Rajani: Hit exalted with the 8.3 Rajani faction. As someone who played daily in BFA without break, and as someone that maxed out all of their reputations, I did not do Rajani. Why? Because it does not feel good to do dailies for only a handful of rep per day, with no extra sources. Suggested change: Require Revered OR increase rep from dailies OR add more sources for daily rep, like killing rares.
Combating the Corruption: Requires you to kill specific Elites in N’Zoth Invasions. This one is pretty well known for being terrible as these NPCs are extremely hard to find, and if they’re hard to find now, they’ll be impossible to find when this leaves the PTR. Suggested change: Remove.
It’s Not A Tumor!: Destroy 1000 Corruption Tumors in N’Zoth Invasions. This one is okayish, if it weren’t for 2 things. One, it dismounts you. Two, it’s a cast. Suggested change: Turn them into killable NPC’s OR make it instantly destroyed. Quicker respawn wouldn’t be too bad either.
Essence Essentials: Collect every Rank 1 Essence from 8.2 Rise of Azshara. Have we forgotten the original sources of these essences? There’s one for World PVP in Nazjatar, and another for regular PVP, of which the Rank 1 quest requires you to do a PVP Island. Suggested change: Do not include any of the PVP essences in this, or other essence achievements.
Undersea Usurper & Mecha-Done. Both of these meta achievements have some extremely RNG heavy elements or insane timegating. (I’ve done these in BFA, but I recall getting stuck on Spraypaints, Music Rolls, Recipes and the weekly quest to summon an elemental boss in a cave that required FOURTEEN WEEKS TO COMPLETE.)
Suggested changes for Undersea Usurper:
Remove Periodic Destruction or make it Daily instead of Weekly. Remove Back From the Depths, since that event is rare. Require x amount of rares instead of all.
Suggested changes for Mecha-Done:
Require x amount of guest quests completed instead of all. Same for the Rest in Pistons achievement and the blueprints achievement. Increase the drop chance significantly of cat paints and musical tracks. (And while you’re at it, an increased drop chance on the Azeroth Mini: King Mechagon would be VERY welcome, although outside of this meta.)
Again PLEASE ADD to this topic if you’d like to see change for any achievement not mentioned here that is required for the new BFA meta.
warfronts need to be soloable imo, if they currently are, we cant tell because the bar to actually do them is not filled yet, at the time of posting it is at 65% which would be a day or so from posting.
Def Combating the Corruptiuon and It’s not a Tumor! should be removed as requirements. I agree with Rajani, though would lean towards increase rep from dailies. I agree wqith Essence Essentials removing PvP portions, and the same for Island Expeditions (this is has been confirmed). The rest I would leave alone.
Very much agree with this one, I have been farming the achieve on live and it is going to be horrible with a ton of people searching for these mobs. Spending hours and hours with zero competition as it is and still missing a few. Many of the mobs, if not all of them, will be one shot too.
All achievements that involve waiting for the right world quest to show up, the right table mission to show up, or the right island expedition monster combination to show up should be removed.
Those “just keep subbing” achieves fulfilled their purpose during BfA, but rubbing people’s faces in that level of timegated RNG these days is going to cause great anger.
I would like to just add some comments around this achievement. I’m a huge mount hunter and have completed the other two expansion meta achievements. I did not play in BFA so am significantly far behind this one, which is perfectly fine. I will grind the many many months of dailies with (limited) complaining lol.
Here’s my issue - I am currently blocked by Essence Essentials, as mentioned originally. I wouldn’t even mind doing pvp if it wasn’t 6 year old content and required you to find 2 others of the same faction to queue. I actually convinced some friends to try and help me out, and after over 30 minutes of nothing we just gave up. I submitted a ticket asking for help to just progress that section of the quest, and was told that GMs are not allowed to do those things.
I sure hope this is removed because it will be come the only thing preventing me from obtaining this meta achievement. In the meantime i’ll work towards the rest in hopes they update it.
Today I ran into another brutal achievement that I would like the devs to reconsider as part of the meta.
This achievement requires sitting in the battle for stromgarde, semi-afk, for a minimum of 3 hours. You need to react to the rare events that spawn, one every 10-15 minutes (completely RNG), and go get credit for them. Meaning you need to have a group of 5 friends that wait for everyone to arrive before engaging the event.
After 2 hours of this, I was kicked from the battle for being “afk”, I hadn’t touched my mouse in 5 minutes I was just watching the map for the next event. So I’ll have to do it over again, from scratch. Completing the same events I’ve already completed, and waiting, and not afking ONCE in 3 hours.
This one was already updated. You only need 6 rares now.
I did it earlier, people on the Achievements & Lord of the Reins Discords run groups for them and wait for rares to spawn.
Just jump every now and then and you won’t get kicked for afk either. If you do, someone can invite you back in if you leave the party and get invited again.
The only thing bad about this achievement is not being able to solo queue, and having to tag the rare to get credit, which is kinda hard if 5 people need credit and you cant oneshot it.
I posted above (on the wrong character so sorry about that), but want to provide an update regarding the Essence Essential achievement, specifically the “Storming the Battlefields” quest required for the Blood of the Enemy Heart of Azeroth essence.
Yesterday I posted in the Secret Finding discord to try and form a group to do this. We formed and queued. It was almost after an hour that I had thought about asking a few friends to go alliance and queue to see if it would help. The second they queued we both joined the same match and were able to trade the victories needed for this quest to complete.
In short, try asking some friends or guildies if they could spare 5 minutesto queue on each faction. The match itself took no time at all, and worth mentioning there were non 80s in each party, so that is not a blocking requirement. Also worth mentioning that at least Deephaul Ravine does NOT progress your quest credit for “Win a Battleground”. Wowhead comments mentioned Eye of the Storm working so I just solo queued for that.
Feel free to DM me or reply if you have any questions - good luck to everyone who is hunting this achievement!!!
Wintrading is a bannable offense. If any achievement REQUIRES wintrading PVP to obtain, it means it’s flawed by design.
This is a problem with not just this essence, but also things like Ordos Bloody Coins, Garrison Gladiator pvp, Talon’s Vengeance, Conquerer of Azeroth, etc.
Once content becomes outdated, PVP stuff like this will only be obtainable through wintrading. Which is bannable. Newer PVP achievements don’t -require- outdated pvp content, killing players or looting bounties luckily, but that doesn’t fix the problems with older stuff.
They have to do something about that, perhaps clarify that wintrading is allowed in old content, but as of now, don’t do this for your own sake.
I got this one done last thursday, but yeah it was very annoying having to wait for the assault to pop and the WQ that has you dress like a vulpera isn’t guaranteed to be up.
And having to wait for the sandfishing wq in Vol’dun was annoying as well.
I haven’t seen those(but had them done in bfa) yet. Some of these achievements for the meta are just a nuisance. I’m really dreading most of the pvp stuff, since I hardly touched pvp in BFA(just for blood of the enemy essence).
I hope they rework a good amount of them.
In the case Combating the Corruption doesn’t get removed from this meta, some things to make it a bit easier:
Download NPCTime
Use Class Trials on dead realms or enter Chromie Time on a character level 50 or higher
Check both warmodes, log out, wait 20 minutes
Zones reset if no one has been in there for 15 minutes, so if you don’t want to spend hours grinding away at mobs in the hopes it spawns, you can try this method to do it more passively.
This only works in Uldum though. Vale you need to complete the BFA questline up to “A Titanic Problem” to access it.
So every other week you can check every 20 min or so if something you need is up… this will still suck for a lot of them though. (Jailers, Neferset Guards, Watchers and Bloodseeker to name a few) it’s just a lot of RNG.
Beats grinding mobs for hours with competition tho. Atleast on EU, people on bigger realms have already started pre-farming this for 11.0.7. Neferset is full of people spam killing guards and watchers.
If you’re not doing this trick… well… good luck I guess. It sucks.
