Suggestion: Sell Cash Services for Gold (bypass new Tax laws)

And another thing people kinda fail at lately, is keeping an objective voice in their head when they read other people’s posts on a message board.

As I tell people sometimes, read my posts with a Mr. Rogers voice in your head. Then your own insecurities, frustrations and “triggers” won’t be transferred onto me.

Also keep in mind that I type over a hundred words a minute. Not a brag - simply a statement so people understand I can bang out a long post in just a minute or so. It’s not like I am putting my life on hold to produce a few hundred words on this or that topic. It takes mere moments.

I’m not “triggered” my friend, I’m debating. I’ve always loved debate. I feel I am good at it. I don’t see why I should apologize for this.

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Correct. But not when purchased by in-game gold.

Im no tax lawyer, but an argument could be made that gold has a real life monetary value in terms of the value of tokens.

It would make for an interesting case.

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Could be argued to be tax evasion and governments tend to frown on that and Blizz has enough problems as it is without having court battles over it.

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I linked another thread with hundreds of replies involving being taxed since Jan 1st, and told you how to google the article. Boggling that you’re an exception when other states are not, as has been proven.

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IT doesn’t cite a single source. Meaning the OP. Meaning, my issue was never with you, ever, it was with the OP and their “blanket complaint” … that has at least one exception, probably more.

OK?

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Not you. You can stop being defensive.

Edit: Nevermind, I see your little head at the bottom. I’ll wait.

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Really? The OP said the following:

How is that inaccurate? Outside of the opinion that it’s silly, the rest is true.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that states can require internet retailers to collect sales taxes, even if the merchant doesn’t have a physical presence there.

So I’m confused by what you’re upset over.

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I don’t see any way Blizzard would benefit from this without adversely affecting the price of the WoW token if services were directly to gold via payment.

Actually… I have thought what if they made different tier of WoW tokens that also came with perks. Like Copper Token is the current $20 for gold, Bronze Token is $30 for Gold + Name Change or Appearance Change, Silver Token is $40 for Gold + Race Change or Character Transfer, and Gold Token is $50 for Gold + Faction Change.

In the end though it sounded so convoluted in my head, what was I thinking… However, such an idea could help you out. They would still tax you on the $15 Blizzard Balance, but since the “service” comes with that token, it can’t be taxed, probably.

Yeah, somehow I don’t doubt it. Not like there is a thread to read through, or anything. I mean, I know I typed my responses in Greek - or was it Latin, I cannot remember - but you can surely use Google translate, no?

I can post in another language if English (or Greek, or Latin) confuses you.

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Why should Blizzard attempt to skirt tax law and thus potentially put a target on their own backs just so you can save cents on the dollar?

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Aaaaaaaand, I’m out. Look at this mess.

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uh we all knew state taxes were coming to online items get over it

And when I am wrong, I’ll say so. I very quickly forgot that the person I was debating with was the OP. So, yes, my issue is/was with your post, not someone else’s.

So, I re-word. You should post more accurate information. At least edit your OP to reflect the fact that this doesn’t apply to CA.

Or, at least re-word things like this:

I read that, I’m not out of the loop, and what you posted doesn’t apply to me. Nor, any other person in CA (apparently.)

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Wow. Okay. Sure. Let’s just skip right to insults instead of actually explaining your problem when the OP wasn’t even wrong about the law.

Nothing you posted remotely explains it. All you did was go off on a California tangent and then claim the OP was spouting nonsense about the law. When the law clearly says it’s by state and it can be implemented at any point in time.

It was a Supreme Court ruling that I quoted for you. It’s state by state, but allows them to tax virtual goods, even without a physical presence in that state. Not all states do yet. And some may not at all. It’s up to the individual state.

So it doesn’t apply in California yet-- or maybe never. Grats. It does in other states. It’s not a half truth. The only part of that which is an opinion is the “overbearing” adjective.

Yet you keep trying to make it out as if it’s some big lie on the OP’s part. Thus why I asked why you’re so bent out of shape. And which you have yet to explain in any of your posts, considering you didn’t even take the time to look up or read the ruling.

But sure, I just quote things and don’t read. Makes sense. Thanks for being so polite to me. :roll_eyes:

It is a service ( a bad one in some ways imo), all services are generally taxed. It’s called contributing to your community, I see nothing wrong with this. Actually that it’s going to your local government and contributing to your infastructure is even better.

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Stay away from mtx kids. Mtx is bad. Bad is mtx.
Easiest way to avoid being taxed is not buying anything from the store. GG.

The gov’t is involved. It’s not going away.
The devs seen the money 3rd parties were making from selling gold and services.
They added mtx to get that extra money.
The gov’t seen how much money this industry generates and wanted some it.
Now its taxed.

Keep using MtX. Devs don’t even need to release new content. They can keep recycling and give us empty expansions like bfa.
That Vulpera mount is cool though…LOL

Next expansion:Wrath of the microtransactions.

You literally just did that, mate. Hypocrisy sucks, bad. You skip everything I have written, then went with, “I dunno what you’re so upset about.”

Because you clearly read everything I said, right? Of course.

But what you came back with, that’s worth reading. And I did. And it has a lot of useful information; that’s great.

My problem is, for the last time:

The OPs blanket statement is inaccurate, yet, it doesn’t say that there are exceptions, and goes on to pull the, “If you’re out of the loop, I’ll school ya,” thing. Which is silly, given the inaccuracy of their post.

That’s it, that’s all. The OP said everyone is taxed, I am not taxed, and I stood up and said so. If that fault exists in the OP’s argument, might not others? No? Are you sure?

I went on to debate with the OP, they admitted faults in their post, and yet, it still stands unedited.

How and when did accuracy become something we don’t strive for?

Not entirely sure what’s being argued here.

Blizzard is required by law to adhere to state/federal tax laws and as a result you have to pay more. They are not going to create a means for you to avoid paying that tax. If you want to argue that the tax is unfair, take it up with your local or state reps.

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Yep. Sure. Just continue with the insults. You’re not gaining any ground that way.

Nowhere did the OP say it was for every state. Your argument makes no sense to me. That’s why I asked you to explain it in the first place. Let me spell it out for you what the OP actually wrote:

Nope. Says nothing about all states. Just says what the law states: they are allowed to now tax the purchase of virtual goods.

Nope. Doesn’t say all states. It just says “states.” That’s not “all.”

Posted only to let people know who may not actually know. Some don’t. You’d be surprised.

True. It’s not Blizz’s fault. It is because of the legislation. And it doesn’t say it’s for all states.

I can’t help it you refuse to actually read and comprehend what the OP said. And it’s not their fault you won’t read the legislation to understand what you’re trying to rage against.

It’s been explained that your state doesn’t do this yet. But 45 of them can. And most of those do. And the OP never made a blanket statement that included every single state.

I think you need to take a step back and reevaluate what you’re flipping out about. And also stop insulting people.

More proof you don’t read, because I addressed this.

Mr. Rogers’ voice. Mr. Rogers all the way.

Also:

But, I didn’t and don’t see tax added to the total. Hence:

You go ahead and keep telling me that I’m wigging out. As I make my point clearer and clearer, ad hominems become the only retort I see. It becomes less and less about what I am debating, and more about how you think my voice sounds in your head.

This is lame, already. Pay tax, don’t pay tax, whatever.

/popcorn and 3d glasses, recline in chair and laugh.

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