Suggestion: Pick and choose your racials at character creation

You should let people pick and choose racial abilities upon character creation so players aren’t locked into a race that is not visually appeasing to the person playing.

The idea is simple:
You have 4 or 5 racial slots to choose from
1 of those racial slots is for strong abilities like shadowmeld or stoneform - you only get to choose 1 strong racial because obviously stacking 5 “ultimate” racial abilities would be broken.
The other small racial slots are for utilities like vulpera mailbox, undead water breathing etc etc and you can mix and match any of these as they’re not considered particularly game breaking.

These racials much like picking your race at character creation are still locked in place and are not changeable (Though I’m sure you could sell racial talent respecs on the store for a few blizzard fun bucks).

If you would not considered that then you need to seriously rethink some racials shadowmeld/stoneform specifically which are so strong they let you completely negate some mechanics entirely which means for players at the high end being a NE or Dwarf is nearly mandatory.

So please think about something like this as it would make a lot of players very happy I assure you.

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It would make me unhappy.

Stop trying to strip every vestige of RPG left in this game.

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Negative.

Most of the other races are completely primitive and do not have the intellectual prowess to perform a combat analysis in the midst of combat.

They’re all flesh puppets and do not heed the machine. They will regret that choice.

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yea this would not work out that to good
what if everyone picks shadowmeld well that will be nerfed

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I like this idea. Having 2 OP racials drive competitive race selection just isn’t fun.

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You can have something like this and not break role playing immersion (even if a tiny fraction of players care for such things)
Example:
In games like Dragon Age or Baldur’s Gate you create your character of whatever race and then you choose it’s background i.e the preleading story of your character.
e.g Your character grew up in the woods and often traded with forest elves so they’re naturally more nimble and aware so they get +2 dex +2 awareness or something like that.

In other games like elder scrolls the racials partly from your race choice but also from your theology e.g you worship this particular deity so you get a bonus of XYZ

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You have me convinced.

I love Lightforged Draenei but I don’t want to press its racial.

Thing is race already informs people’s choice. This lets people have the liberty to the separate the visual from the utility factor.

Buddy go look at the top 10%-20% of players and nearly everyone in those brackets is playing Night Elf or Dwarf.

It must be very tiring to be a meta slave, constantly chasing that 1% of dps and optimizing the fun out of the game, turning everything into a bunch of sims and spreadsheets.

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i guess you miss what i said
if you let everyone pick stoneform or shadowmeld and no one picks anything else these will be nerfed

like every rogue will pick shadowmeld
tanks stoneform

So what’s different to now?
Every serious player is already running stoneform/shadowmeld.
At least then people can pick a race they like the look of and still be in the meta.

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The overwhelming majority doesn’t need NE or Dwarf racials, in any way. I’d much prefer not to remove immersion based around MDI or RWF.

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the differance is that we do not have 50-60% stoneform or shadowmeald players
wonder why arcane torrent was nerfed?

284th on io according to RIO:

Race: Orc

If all the racials were just a factor of 1% dps it wouldn’t really be an issue that needs fixing.

The problem is some racials are so strong that they give you a way higher chance of surviving a mechanic (e.g you can Shadowmeld targeted abilities in raids/M+ entirely shrugging off something that would be otherwise lethal)

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and having a 2 sec auto remove from a stun is still king
6sec to 4 sec is life or death to tanks or melee dps

Does that include the Dracthyr and Worgen radicals? :robot::thought_balloon:

What unavoidable stun does it work on? Feels like, much like Will to Survive, a dead racial. Also: Not dwarf.

there should be base racials for every race.

Then add some in for flavor/cosmetic purposes for any variants

All humans, for example, would have:

  • the human spirit
  • no place like home
  • will to survive
  • jack of all trades

then kul’tiran humans would have

  • haymaker
  • child of the sea
  • rime of the ancient mariner

stormwind humans would then have other things

Do the same process for all races and their respective variants