Title says it all. The people who wait for you to start fighting near a mining node/herb so they can swoop down and steal it from you are scum. Blizzard should allow us to mine/herb while being hit.
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I mean, blizzard already has a fix for this in retail. That fix being that nodes can be hit by everyone for a period of time after the 1st person hits it.
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A change like that affects the economy though. It puts more ore into the hands of players. I’m sure a lot of people mining in Classic are against that. Instead it’d be much better if we could just mine while being attacked and not have to worry about some tool coming down and stealing it while we’re fighting mobs. Its just annoying.
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That’s how it was back in the day and that’s how it should stay according to the purists.
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I mean, I’d rather have it the way it was originally, but if you really want a change, blizzard isn’t likely to reinvent the wheel when they already have a solution.
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Imagine getting mauled to death because you desperately needed that Peacebloom and you just take it.
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Yeah I’m not gonna go play retail over some mining nodes. Not every thread on here asking for even the smallest of changes needs the “just go play retail” argument. Also, what I’m asking for isn’t in retail. You still can’t mine while being attacked. People just can’t “steal” nodes anymore.
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If someone wants to die over a node let them. Better that than have some guy swoop down and yoink it while your fighting for it.
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Did I say go play retail? No. Then how about we stop there.
I’m just saying if you want a change to prevent people from stealing node, blizzard already came up with a solution, so it’s unlikely they’re going to reinvent the wheel.
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They’ve already made far more impactful changes. If someone has an actual point other than “it was like that back then” then I’d love to hear it.
The nodes not yours till it’s in your bag.
Many things you can do to drop combat or force combat on the one trying to get the node. Than take it as they deal with the combat. Hunter fd pally bubble mage ice block are all examples there are even quite a few items.
Fighting for the nodes is vary much part of mining and herbing in classic that is the flavour of the proff. It’s not just since it how it was. That is the flavour of the proff you fight for the nodes. This includes the race to the nodes, the pvp around them that it causes aiding in making world pvp happen and the tricks to keep your allies you can’t attack of.
This is all part of what a mmorpg was meant to be a massive world. Just like the real world you have to fight to get ahead and get what you want. You don’t get something since you where there first in almost all cases. Dosent matter if you interview first or submit a app first to a job the winner is the one that dose it better. Working at a company longer dosent always mean you will be paid more in fact more often than not length of employment is one of the least related factors to pay. Rarly if ever is someone going to take a pay cut to give you it since you where there first if they have the option not to. Mining is no different, people are not going to give up there possible earnings since you happen to be by it. The node is not yours yet and is free game.
In fact this is vary much a intended part of mining and herbing and some classes and even mounts (sky golem) have been giving advantages in regard to grabbing nodes. Would be pointless to do that if you where meant to “own” the node just for being there first.
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Never said it was. If you see money on the ground its not yours until its in your pocket, but if some dude came and knocked you over so he could take it you’d probably think he was a tool no?
Ah yes, min/maxing your race and class for a profession. Fun.
If I had to fight the other player then fine. But I don’t. They get a free node while I work to clear it of mobs.
The flavor of mining/herbing is having toolbags come take them from you because your fighting mobs near them. Doesn’t sound very tasty.
Well if I was fighting near the node first then I won the race no? Also, if it was a pvp server and you could fight that player then fine. This isn’t what I’m talking about though.
Except I am fighting for it. The guy who comes and steals it while I am is the one not fighting lol.
Are we still talking about a video game here?
A lot of effort to defend people who act like toolbags going on here. Sad honestly.
Wasn’t the sky golem added after nodes became shared?
I mean, I don’t think its illegal to cut in line in businesses either. But its still looked down upon and will make you look like a douche if you do it. Difference being people actually don’t want to be seen as a douche irl, in a video game they can be a douche all they want and it doesn’t matter.
You thinking he’s a tool or not is irrelevant. No one gives to hoots what you think of them in business. Your there to make money not freinds.
Yes min maxing your proff and class for gold making is vary much fun for some people in fact that is the vary reason some people play the game and they have just as much claim to having the game made for them as anyone else. In this case blizzard at the time agreed it is fun and increased in xpac to xpac not decreased it.
They don’t get a free node. They only get a free nose if you let them. There is tons of things you can do to drop the combat many are able to be used by any class/spec. You can look up examples yourself as I honestly don’t plan to help others protect themselves that’s your job. If you don’t want to lose the node defend it. I haven’t lost a node in awhile as it’s not hard to defend your claim.
You not liking the flavour of mining just means it’s not for you and you should be looking at a diff profession not trying to ruin it for others that do enjoy the fight and quite enjoy watching someone try to take a node your fighting for only to dump the mobs on them as you get the node and laugh at them.
No you did not win the race fighting by the node first, you won the race to the node giving you ab advantage in the overall race (battle) you have not won till it’s in your bag. You can “fight” the player even of the same faction many ways to do so as mentioned already.
You keep claiming he’s stealing the node he is not so long as you claim that your post is worthless. The only reason someone gets a node without fighting is you let them take it. Use one of the many options out there to drop combat onto them and take the node. This is you failing the battle not them taking without a fight. It’s you not putting up a fight.
Comes down to if you don’t like it get a different profession. This is what everyone expected going into mining and herbing for all the early xpacs. It’s part of the game and vary much a part that many enjoy. You not enjoying it means the issue is you need to either deal with it or leave. Blizzard should not change what vary much is a fundamental part of the profession since you dont like it. Also no sky golem was added before nodes was shared.
Also people are 100 percent ok with being seen as a douche in real life. I see them every single day.
Also not defending tools here at all. The ones taking the nodes here are not doing anything wrong and blizzard has even made blue posts about that in the past. You thinking they are stealing form you is the issue that is the only issue here. It is not yours till it’s in your bag as such impossible for them to steal it.
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One of the reasons the “community” has become so much worse over the years. Imagine just not being a douchebag towards other people.
Then they can have fun doing that. There are plenty of people who play a druid so they can just gather in flight form, this change doesn’t stop them doing that. My suggestion literally only prevents people from being tools. Figures there are people who have an issue with that though. Game just isn’t as fun when you can’t be a douche to others is it?
They do. They fly down, mine it, and fly away. Meanwhile I had to fight for it. I’d also like to ask how you suggest I stop them. Use an ability my class/race doesn’t have? Like I said, if I had the power to stop them and fight them for it I wouldn’t complain.
There is literally not one thing a human DK can do to drop combat. Not one.
Do you think I’m on a pvp server or something? I’m not. And even if I was it was a member of my faction that yoinked the node, I couldn’t have fought them anyway.
So next time I should just be like “Hey monsters, go fight that guy instead.”?
Can’t do anything as a human DK, and I’m not about to even consider race changing to Night Elf just to mine. Your posts are starting to reek of trolling, which is fitting given what your defending.
Okay I’ll reword it. They mined a node I was fighting for, knowing I was fighting for it, so they are a tool.
Human DKs don’t have any. Race changing is not an option I’ll begin to remotely entertain either.
Again, I cannot fight them. Can’t drop combat, not pvp server/opposite faction. Its a free node for them while I fight for it.
I wonder how many people have ever been fighting for a node, only to have someone else come up to it and mine it while they’re fighting, and thought to themselves “Wow, that was so much fun, I’m really glad it works that way”. I’m betting close to 0. The only person having fun is the guy who got the node while the other guy fought for it.
They have before. I just don’t think how they changed it would work well in classic. Hence why my suggestion is for something different.
Far less than are okay with being that way in a game no doubt though. Funny how in almost 30 years of living I’ve never seen someone go out of their way to be a douche towards others in real life though. I’ve met people who act like douches without meaning to, but not so many that do so on purpose because they think its fun to make everyone around them hate them.
“I’m not defending tools.” Proceeds to defend tools in the following sentence.
Anyway going back to levelling my alt. If taking nodes while others fight for it is your idea of fun then you do you. Its a sad hill to die on imo, but whatever floats your boat.
Ya someone that has happened since of vanilla is the reason the community is getting worse over time. Yep keep dreaming. This is not a new thing it is the original way of mining and herbing.
Quite a few ways to stop them as mentioned. You begin to dense to look up ways is on you. Don’t want to and want to keep losing the battle that’s your call. There is things a human dk can do to win the battle droping combat was only one example but do keep showing how little effort you put into winning. As mentioned there is ways that work for every class and spec, as a note my miner is also a dk.
You thinking there a tool is meaningless no one cares.
Comes down to this is the way the profession is meant to be. We knew that when picking the prof, we accepted that when picking the prof. You can’t say you dint know it would be like that, as if so, that is you not informing yourself and as such your issue. You don’t change the game when we are playing what is meant to be classic and as such the game we remember playing as much as possible just since you don’t like one element of it. Esp not when that element is quite literally one of the core elements of the profession. There is nothing else to the prof but clicking a node and fighting for it both npcs and players.
You either deal with what you accepted going into the prof or you swap profs.
But going to leave it at that. Nothing else needs to be said as your only going in circles repeating the same at this point clearly showing you have not even tryed to find out the options anyone can do to screw with people trying to mine a node to get it first. There is many ways which as we go further into xpacs only gets to be more wrath added a few itself, thou my fav is still from tbc. While yes druid flight form is the strongest and hardest to deal with for herbing they is many ways to deal with anyone else. Flight fourm thou can be dealt with also it’s not worth in most cases that is there advantage for there class which is part of the game and the prof and dosent work on ores.
In the end blizzard is not going to change anything so with that I’m out. If they where they would or a long time ago as the subject comes up quite often. As such we know there stance.
That’s what cc is for, if you’re going for a node with mob near you cc the mob.
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how about stop playing like a bot and fight for resources
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this is solved by playing on a pvp server. you fight for it.
someone your own faction doing it, ya that sucks.
What cc do I have as a DK in Classic? No stun, disorient, fear, etc.
This doesn’t really happen here because most people have etiquette.
What server are you on?