- Paladins could searing glare through it or auto sac.
- Shaman can double incap totem
- monk rop / leg sweep
- Warlock rift port you , shadowfury , pre havoc into coil / fear
- warr intim shout / shockwave
- evoker deepbreath
All examples of things that went through duel with thinking/ planning instead of holding W.
Yeah duel isn’t good for the game and does not create a healthy tuning pass for us. Definitely prefer cata over mop though. Lots of stun bot nonsense started in mop and heavier reliance on cds.
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Subterfuge is a good tool no matter what spin or propaganda people attempt to toss on it. Other classes gained a lot anyway and an evoker hitting the yellow brick road button to stop you or entangling roots from a solid druid isn’t going to leave you doing much.
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Many hero talents auto break vanish and stealth (on purpose as the tooltips are intended to hit nearby targets - depends on ability but that can he within 40 yards). Other classes would just like to gripe anyway and the story continues as always
We adapt and push on rogues. Not much else we can do here and hopefully less silly interactions and dependencies are in store moving forward.
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people made fun of me for using shadowy duel last expansion.
now this expansion every rogue is using it and killing you in globals. 2 cheapshots in a row and you are dead, unless you trinket + blind.
it was never ment to be this powerful. so they cant fix it, so theyll just remove it.
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my friend showed me how OP it is. he opens with cheapshot, shadowy duels to cheapshot again… and before that stun leaves. im dead. basically… its like having subterfuge without having the talent. subterfuge is actually kind of a hinderance in this matter becuase youre not getting your danse debuffs. if you use dance instead, you get debuffs. combined with shadowy duel… its just debuff city and youre toast.
subterfuge is a hidderance. when shadowy duel provides the 2nd cheapshot with debuffs from dance.
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Shadowy duel doesnt kill you. Its just take you out of sight like smoke bomb so their healer cant heal them. Even though it provide you can use stealth ability. It has nothing to do with your burst. And you cant kill full hp in 5s duel. You need 7s atleast. A decent one will duel at second global or 2rd cheap shot so he can finish kill at end of duel.
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On demand garrote silence from dance was always stronger for sub that shadowy duel. Keep in mind shadowy duel came into existence because Sub lost garrote silence, poisons and gouge due to the pruning of legion. And there are so many stuns you can toss out before DR kicks in so Sub needed another CC tool so that is how shadowy duel came into existence.
ppl are using it for burst. cheapshot opener. followed by shadowy duel cheapshot. 2 stuns then you are dead in the burst.