I just had to do the “I told you so” post lmao. The spec is cracked when it gets to do what it does best and that performance comes through in M+ too when groups play around it.
i mean everyone with a solid grasp of the spec saw this coming 
basically no one on the forums
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If all you want out of a spec is pumping numbers, more power to you; you’re in good company.
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I dunno how one can be so dumb as to make this the post’s takesway.
I see Sub is tearing poop up. What’s up with those guys?
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BlizZard took away Sub’s penalties aka shackles. It has gained freedom in M+.
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they changed nothing between last season and this one beyond new tierset.
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What the new tier set im at work
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the season 3 tierset?
Yeah I meant what was the equip bonus but I can find it now lol.
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Here you go!
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ah my bad friend
Set Trickster: [Unseen Blade deals 35% increased damage and has a 35% chance to strike twice. wowhead com/spell=1236404/rogue-trickster-11-2-class-set-2pc)
Deathstalker: [Symbols of Death increases the effectiveness of all Deathstalker damage effects and damage bonuses by 40% while active.]/spell=1236400/rogue-deathstalker-11-2-class-set-2pc)
4pc
[Coup de Grace may now be activated a second time within 5 sec, dealing 150% of normal damage(spell=1236405/rogue-trickster-11-2-class-set-4pc)
[Symbols of Death has 3 sec increased duration and consumes an application of your active Deathstalker’s Mark when activated./spell=1236401/rogue-deathstalker-11-2-class-set-4pc)
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Thematically and mechnically, it is not fulfilling, having to use shadow dance and symbols of death.
Hot take: Subtlety should be a mid-range knife throwing spec. 
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Shut up hunter.
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MoP classic shuriken toss exists. Go have your fantasy.
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Strong tier set and a trinket that leans heavily into sub’s flexible burst profile, what’s not to love 
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Shadow ninja is way cooler than wanna be cyberpunk throwing knife build. How many variations of he throws the knife do you want for abilities?
Gotta eat my words on this one, im kinda shocked sub is doing so well.
Still, if the damage is very group dependent that means most people will not be able to get the performance they want out of sub.
It’s also a particularly difficult spec to play with some weird unintuitive mechanics like assassination rogue
Usually most sub players I found were garbage, so I got a bad impression on them, I used to play outlaw and subtlety in DF S1 and 2 before the rework.
The rework definitely made sub much less approachable in terms of how easy the rotation is. And the hero talents definitely made sub and assassination even more difficult to play, though I really like shadow craft.
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sub was harder pre rework? shadowdust made the spec into a spreadsheet where yo uhave to time your multiple cds (Which all have different cds btw) to make sure they align properly.
now you just synce up your cds as best you can without doing math and looking at spreadsheets. thats significantly less harder
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Ironically by removing Inv Shadow dust they thought they simplified the spec but all they did was further complicates things.
