Sub only stress test = biased feedback

[Tankshow-whisperwind (Tankshow)]

The only thing you seem to be testing in your keyboard…by typing ridiculous amounts of garbage that has nothing to do with what people are saying. At most you just attack people with some insult that you think is clever and just rant without even really having a point.

[Bricklethumb-anvilmar]

@Tankshow-whisperwind

The only thing you seem to be testing in your keyboard…by typing ridiculous amounts of garbage that has nothing to do with what people are saying. At most you just attack people with some insult that you think is clever and just rant without even really having a point.

That is very odd. Looks exactly like what you are doing right now.

You are welcome to stick around and join the discussion. But you are not my or anyone’s savior. . Thats all.

Thanks

[Tankshow-whisperwind (Tankshow)]

@Bricklethumb-anvilmar

That is very odd. Looks exactly like what you are doing right now.

You are welcome to stick around and join the discussion. But you are not my or anyone’s savior. . Thats all.

Thanks

No, thank YOU for proving my point

[Bricklethumb-anvilmar]

@Tankshow-whisperwind

No, thank YOU for proving my point

Do you mean the point that you don’t make any points?

Seems to be an issue with retention with some… So here it is.

My point.

1. The stress test is open to people who are currently subbed.
2. Demanding access and stating that you know better than others is silly.
3. Picking a fight by saying we OWE you thanks is preposterous.
4. Watching you turn to attacks is, expected.

So those are my points. They have been stated many times, but you want to ignore them. It’s cool.

But. If you want respect, don’t come around here telling us that we owe you… because you think breaking law, TOS, and stealing IP is ok.

Got it? I somehow doubt it.

Bye…

[Marufrozen-ursin]

I just can’t believe there are people saying that you should pay to stress test. Do you want a good game or not? You do? Then let everyone in to stress the crap out of the server so they can better gauge things. Isn’t that the point? It’s gonna suck really hard if launch comes around and suddenly there are 10x as many people than they prepared for.

[Brockthorn-malygos (Brockthorn)]

Doesn’t matter Marufrozen…pay or don’t play.
Blizzard needs their money.

[Marufrozen-ursin]

And they’ll get it. When Aug27th rolls around. Before then wouldn’t they appreciate more accurate data?

[Pyro-nazjatar]

that would be feedback which i mentioned in my post.

overcrowded servers are actually pretty matter of fact too, at least while leveling.

if you have to sit and wait for spawns at every quest its too crowded

[Proxy-gorgonnash (Proxy)]

Well, I seem to have started a bit of a thread here. Let me address as much as I can…

@Lapdance-garona

If $15 is this significant to you, then you absolutely should not be spending it on a video game. That’s not elitist; it’s realist.

$15 / mo. = $0.50 per day.

@Lapdance-garona

I like how I’m being called elitist because $15 doesn’t break my bank.

Nobody is calling you elitist because $15 doesn’t break your bank. We’re calling you elitist because you’re being assumptive about how other people should spend their money, and applying your financial situation as some sort of standard that all others should be measured against.

@Hammerdon-trollbane

You honestly think that everyone who plays BfA plays it because we like it and want Classic to be like it?

Of course not, that’d be absurd. I think on average across the whole spectrum of current/retail wow players you’re going to get a more pro-retail view of how things should be vs former players or a mix of former and current players.

@Leiloni-area-52

I’d venture to guess that many of you would be fine playing on alternate servers if Classic didn’t turn out the way you’d hoped. You’re not willing to take a risk on Classic and put in the time, effort, and money needed to help make it what you want it to be

I can’t speak for everyone but I have never even thought about playing in an ‘alternative’ server. But, thanks for making assumptions about me, I bet it makes me alot easier to tear down in your head

@Leiloni-area-52

You’re making a lot of incorrect assumptions, here.

The assumption that the people testing Classic WoW are paying for a subscription to BfA? That’s literally exactly the truth.

@Teapartos-aerie-peak

People need to stop saying blizz wants you to pay to get into beta. It is factually wrong.

That’s not what people are saying. We are saying that BfA subscribers are getting into the beta, meaning either people who have a vested interest in a different style of WoW (again, on average not literally every individual) are providing feedback on how classic should be regarding population density, layering, mob respawn rates, etc; and/or Blizzard are forcing people who are interested in classic to pony up for a thing they don’t want to get something they do want.

@Yserä-area-52

classic wow stress testing is nightmare so many people in one start area you cant even quest they are gonna have to make tag sharing a quality of life in the game no ways around it i know they didnt have that back then but when you have this influx of players playing that has to be added…

I do think it’s worth noting to all the doomsayers about how impossible it was to play, that was probably made that way intentionally. The stress test was to test what happens when a server is under extreme stress. Even if there was a small amount of testers they were going to cram you into a bottleneck on purpose. The will be trying to prevent or ease bottlenecking during the actual launch so if they got accurate data from their testing and are competent then this should be much less of an issue at actual launch.

@Eloraell-moon-guard

Lets look at what would have happened though if anyone got in.

1. Bot accounts would have been running rampant.
2. Players would have made multiple accounts just for the test.
3. Far more people with no intention of playing, would have turned up, diluting the feedback capability.
4. Malicious actors would not have been able to be properly banned, because like this forum, they can just make another account.

And remember… its $15. It’s less than a movie ticket.

It can be free without being open to everyone. It can be tied to battlenet accounts over 30 days old, or an account with any World of warcraft key active or expired, It could involve some obnoxious captcha. It could be done with good old fashioned invite codes… There are tons of ways to mitigate bots and trolls. And you can’t use your financial situation as a universal measuring stick of what constitutes a significant or insignificant cost.

[Teapartos-aerie-peak]

@Proxy-gorgonnash

That’s not what people are saying.

Yes, it is. Half of the posts in this very thread say how blizz is an awful company for charging money for the beta. Look at the post i responded to it specifically says " They want us to pay money to give feedback"

Stop pretending like people aren’t saying this.

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

@Proxy-gorgonnash

And you can’t use your financial situation as a universal measuring stick of what constitutes a significant or insignificant cost.

Actually, I can. Because if you can’t afford $15 this month, you won’t be able to afford it in August. Think of this as a “seeing who can pay” test.

[Proxy-gorgonnash (Proxy)]

@Teapartos-aerie-peak

Yes, it is. Half of the posts in this very thread say how blizz is an awful company for charging money for the beta. Look at the post i responded to it specifically says " They want us to pay money to give feedback"

Stop pretending like people aren’t saying this.

Okay, let me clarify: That’s not what I as the OP was saying. This isn’t a thread about unfair paywall, It’s about how asking only people paying for A how B should be results in an overall answer of “more like A”

Edit:

@Eloraell-moon-guard

Actually, I can. Because if you can’t afford $15 this month, you won’t be able to afford it in August. Think of this as a “seeing who can pay” test.

So because you don’t want to pay it means you can’t afford it? That’s the stupidest take in this entire thread.

[Lapdance-garona]

@Proxy-gorgonnash

We’re calling you elitist because you’re being assumptive about how other people should spend their money, and applying your financial situation as some sort of standard that all others should be measured against.

So I can’t tell you it’s foolish to spend $15 hard dollars (for you) on a video game, but you can tell Blizzard how to run their pre-launch testing phases when you aren’t giving them one red cent?

From a corporate standpoint, I and my opinions are worth more to Blizzard than you and yours because I’m a paying customer and you are not. B’lee dat.

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

@Proxy-gorgonnash

So because you don’t want to pay it means you can’t afford it? That’s the stupidest take in this entire thread.

No, you said using financial situations. Choosing not to pay is a choice, and you’re welcome to it. But that’s your choice, not a financial situation.

[Lapdance-garona]

@Eloraell-moon-guard

Actually, I can. Because if you can’t afford $15 this month, you won’t be able to afford it in August. Think of this as a “seeing who can pay” test.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!*

*- A chicken dinner will probably cost you about $15, too.

[Chroníc-emerald-dream]

@Keredin-sargeras

the stress test is for testing the server stability and layering, no other feedback that is what the regular beta is for

Like it amazes me how people still dont understand that. Its absolutely amazing, its literally in its name and people still dont get it.

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

@Lapdance-garona

*- A chicken dinner will probably cost you about $15, too.

CostCo does $6 chickens. Worth the membership.

[Bricklethumb-anvilmar]

DOH. . membership. . like. . a sub right?

[Eloraell-moon-guard]

Yeah but if you’re saving $9 a chicken, you only have to buy 8 chickens to come out ahead

[Bricklethumb-anvilmar]

A 6 month sub!! Hey!! I have that!!