Shadow strike Shadowblades Dance sectec Bs Evis Bs Evis Bs Evis Bs Evis Bs Evis Bs Evis.
Are we really doing this for a whole tier
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AGREED
I do like that they gave us cut to the chase for snd but with ruture gone it feels like we need another button to push.
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No. We’ll be doing this for three tiers.
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Why are there some people that think this expansions Sub Rogue plays any differently to previous ones?
It’s the exact same spec, only thing that’s different about the rotation is you no longer have Rupture.
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I’m liking subs easy spec. It’s getting me used to playing melee.
I’m newer to rogue but I would love to see:
Gloomblade buff, animation redo, I prefer this over backstab.
The shadow and magic damage talent combined and buffed into 10% magic. Possibly combined with dark brew.
Buff dark brew.
Goremaw’s bite buffed/redesigned? Give us a reason to get another button.
More shadow damage please. My racial needs buffs.
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Might want to refresh what the word “exact” means there, buddy.
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Fundamentally it plays exactly the same as it has in the last two expansions, buddy.
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Fundamentally and exactly are two different things there chief.
You can’t even go one sentence without contradicting yourself.
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One BR streamer named Fugitivotv say “ the sub rogue is 2 botton now”
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Yeah SoD is like RTB pruning either one doesn’t make people miss either button but SoD was pruned away completely this time and RTB was pruned a bit.
But Rupture is missed because it provides a way to do a finisher with a different purpose given Sub is the spec focused on varied finishers.
You can’t seriously claim any spec is based on varied finishers now. Originally, yes. We used to be about that. But they’ve been removing and removing finishers and this expac they have continued the trend to the point I question your sanity.
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Rehk, Sub Rogue uses the same abilities in its rotation as it has in the last few expansions, if you think it’s somehow a different playstyle in Midnight you’re out of your mind champ.
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Yeah outside of Rupture Sub has not changed their rotation that much. Inv Shadow Dust just allowed you to do different things with CDs due to reduced timing, but that is all.
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Don’t backtrack now Lorak, we aren’t talking about using the same abilities, or a different playstyle. You said it’s “exactly” the same. I call you out. So you try to say it’s “fundamentally, exactly the same,” and you can’t even see the irony. Now you backtrack even more. Look dude, I don’t care. I have no skin in the game, and I don’t even play sub.
I’m giving you grief because you’re being absurd in going, “Oh gee whiz how can anyone think this is different!?! It’s exactly the same!?” While obviously refusing to acknowledge the simplifications made to. Now whether they constitute a “big deal,” or “simplification,” or however you wanna label it, that’s up for debate, but don’t just lie and then walk it back when you’re called out.
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Not true. With apex talents, you can occasionally use two eviscerates in a row without having to shadow strike first. 
It is too easy.. but symbols of death was totally redundant, and rupture was off-brand and unintuitive to a “get in, burst, get out” kit.
I think shiv should be reworked to have a shorter cooldown and to be generally less useless to shake up the rotation a tad.
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It was not if you actually put more than 2 seconds of thought into it. Why would you not bleed a target as you get out??? The way you simplify the spec to 5 words to justify the stupid 2 button rotation is abhorrent and antithetical to what the spec previously was.
I’m not backtracking, and I’m not getting into a back and forth with a Troll who just wants to argue for the sake of arguing. You have no idea what you’re talking about, and you’re purposefully trying to misunderstand what I’m talking about, even though it’s really not that hard to understand.
I’ve been playing Sub since Legion, the way it plays right now is almost identical to how it’s played for years, save for a few damage modifiers.
The OP is saying that Sub is boring to play now, but it’s always been boring to play, absolutely no point trying to convince me otherwise.
I’ll hear your response then you’re probably getting added to my ignore list honestly.
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Yeah peak Sub was during WoD with complexity.
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It is not. See the literal prior comment. Yall are shortsighted and its that shortsightedness that prevented you from properly playing the spec previously. If you truly feel it plays the same, you were never doing the correct things.
Why would I look at the prior comment, you didn’t actually say anything meaningful.
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