Sub is a joke. Can't help but laugh how bad this game is

hey cov, creamcorn here, could I interest you in an intervene to protect you from the scary rogues

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The rated world quest adjustment in in order

Smashes gavel
:hammer:

Number of outs with evasion, cloak evasion, and vanish x2 that gives huge cdr to evasion and cloak is just way too much. Having lethal burst damage on top of its level of control given that cheap didn’t get touched in the cc tuning is too much. You shouldn’t get all three (lethal damage, survivability, top tier control) at the same time. Every time sub gets lethal burst under these conditions, it is problematic.

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Nah, tweak the secret techniqueand leave their dps burst alone .what is obnoxious about them is the amount of escapes…vanishes immunities jumping around unslowable …its insane how easy they can reset now…blizzard is trying to make even the specs that required some braincless to be just mobgoloid 1-2 spam with little to no punishment for bad plays.

stop taking things so personally.

I’m not. Just disappointed. Sorry for being human.

I think people made genuine attempts to help you and you doubled down on ur stance

At this point if they troll it is what it is

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I don’t think saying my take was fried, l2p, or any of the other responses like such were attempts to help.

Also, it still boiled down to ‘trust me bro’ instead of actually making an argument. It basically came to “well turtle isn’t an immunity because of the way it is.” Multiple people in that thread kept lying about what I was saying. Made no sense.

I have tried to make some pretty thorough threads here. Providing logs, screenshots, and in the past, even video. Yet, I had an opinion that was counter to a few others and I get called a troll…? Why would I waste my time on so many posts just to have people say I’m trolling, while there are tons of actual trolls that post here daily.

Like I said, I’m not taking personal, just disappointed. I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt and hold most people in pretty high regard. Yet the responses here, even from the regulars, still surprises me. Especially the elitism.

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If anything the forums have short memories unless ur one of those people who frequently makes a billion idiotic posts a day which u aren’t

At the end of the day turtle is a pretty bad defensive if people wanna disagree about its nuances they can

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That’s about all I was looking for. Not that hunters need some defensive buff or anything. Been playing the class since wrath and its pitfalls are pretty well known. Nonetheless, would be nice to see some of the oddities in the game fixed. Given where damage is at, every fraction of a second counts it seems.

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The main two counter posters were not trying to help. Turtling earlier is always the easy answer. The issue/functionality situation with the delay has also been known since turtle became turtle from disengage and kennie and the other were just flat out wrong on their take. More people agreeing on something factually incorrect in a forum thread does not turn it into something factually correct.

Adroi is not a noob or a troll poster, and people were being condescending af. There were obvious points of discussion being made that were given 0 space for grace and instead people chose to fixate on unrelated nuances and wordage. I agree with adroi.

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Nobody’s piling on you. I’m not sure what you expected from a diary-esque post that offers zero productive feedback.

This is not how you initiate a discussion. This is not how you get others to agree with oyu. This is not how you influence change.

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Vanish 1
Vanish 2
Cheat Death
Smoke Bomb
Shadowy Duel

^^
All toxic gameplay

EVEN if they remove 50% of these skills, subt will still be S+++ tier

Add ShadowMeld when facing Nightelf

I had a rogue use trinket, cloak, evasion, and 1 vanish offensively.

Death chakrams rolling, intim him into on-use + rapid fire + deathblow proc

Still had vanish 2 and cheat death out

it’s crazy how personally you two have taken it when you aren’t even able to admit that you were wrong

This guy ignored me some time ago after a semi-lengthy discussion about something where he got flustered because it wasn’t going his way. He made sure to tell me he’s ignoring me because of my name and that he couldn’t troll my profile.

So, for him to say this and then also get mad at others for treating him in the same type of way… Just gets me giddy.

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If you die in a kidney it’s 100% your teams fault or they got cross cc’d and ran out of trinket/cds which is still their fault.

Like do people not know to save your intervenes/stuns/mini cc’s for when rogue uses shadow dance?

I won’t lie Chief a 300k secret tech feels stupid no matter if you misplayed or not haha

Not sure why youre arguing with killjoy he is top 30 NA shuffle sp

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Yep yep. =/

So many matches go like this. Rogue opens and second DPS blows everything. I usually RoS whoever they are on. Rogue swaps me with CDs in bomb and usually forces trinket. Now, it’s just a matter of waiting for the rogue. The next time I get to 50% in the next minute and before RoS is back up, rogue gets me in a duel and I’m dead.

Good healers will tranq, dome, ring, etc. or other dps will AOE cc if they have it. Regardless, I have to have an external of some type to live. Even on my hunter, if the rogue duels the other dps/healer, I’ll drop tar trap.

Peels are definitely what separate the better players in RSS.

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