Sub damage seems too high

given the amount of ctrl they have atm…

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agreed 10 characters

Here come rogue players to tell you how weak their class is atm

Very true. Way too high, their offensives should put their CC on CD or something. 1 stun per 25 seconds only

yeah rogue is good until you que into non stop tank lobbies with more micro cc than rogue. ele/bm/multiple paladins/wars with a verse set that sit in d and intervene every dance

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Nobody has more micro cc than rogue as long as cheap shot exists

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kidney 5 sec + cheap 2 sec dr + cheap 1 sec dr + gouge 3 sec + 5 sec blind (on 2 min cd)

vs hunter

3 sec intim + 2 second dr binding + 4 sec root + 2 sec dr root + 5 sec trap + 2 sec dr scatter + reset scatter cd talent for someone else + knock + 3sec 90% slow + 3 sec blanket silence + 2 slow/root breaks + 3 sec feign immunity frame to stall for next micro cc

everyone of those are 30sec - one min cd

tell me who has more micro cc

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So you include hunter silence but not rogue’s? Definitely not a biased list

sub doesn’t have silence

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I’m a decent sub rogue player and can tell you that this was one of the hardest 1800s I’ve pushed on rogue in a long time. Sub is in a really bad state with the physical DPS meta that we’re in. If Blizz will address the damage and utility of Ret, War, WW, MM, Ele, and Mage, I think the game would be in a much better place and then rogues could be fine-tuned some.

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That used to be the case. Now every class seems to have loads of microCC. Unlike rogue though, they get that and sustained high damage. Rogues get a small window of burst every 1-2 min and, if the setup isn’t perfect, game over!

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agreed buff boomie

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Eh? Sub has massive burst windows but I’d hardly call it high sustained damage. They’re hardly like warriors who keep training you with barely any down time.

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Sub is the hardest spec to get 2k on

easiest spec to get 2.4 on

being able to pressure kills every stun dr with an aggressive healer makes it pretty toxic. You’ll die as a feral with pre hots + pre skin + pre bear during blades. Unless your healer is doing literally nothing, ofc.

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Ahhh not really because it’s one dr.

@ OP if we’re going to use this logic war and ret can take a 50% nerf across the board damage wise, along with hunter mage and ele.

Name a single class that can cc you longer than rogue

Warlock, mage, druid.

Didn’t think that through did you?

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Run the numbers again

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also hunters

Are you both just really bad rogue players who don’t know how to do math

Time to boot up ye ol’ pvp check

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