for those who want to watch
Will watch a match or two while I have time before errands. Thanks for posting!
Edit: Man, you guys almost had that first match.
Hogx, I can’t tune in at the moment but I’m curious are you playing venthyr or Kyrian? I am debating making the full switch to play BM from MM and I know venthyr is much better for BM.
I have two Kyrian and one Venthyr hunt atm.
Watched it for a bit, too bad it wasn’t from hunter point of view. I will say, I’m not sure why he uses animal companion. While you get 20% more dmg with KC and 20% more pet auto atk, it reduces pet claw/bite by 40% and all other animal things like murder of crows. So he would put out more dmg and pressure going with one of the other talents.
He can test it with target dummy if he thinks it is bogus.
All of that is true but made up for by having a 2nd pet. Overall damage is stil higher with 2 pets although and argument could be made that burst damage adding a harder hitter Crows would be higher with single pet.
To the OP, Gratz on getting a Hunter so high… imagine what you could do with a competitive class.
Couple questions…
Why stack haste as BM Hunter?
Why animal companion?
Animal companion does not decrease murder of crows. Overall it’s a damage increase in the majority of situations, plus lots of teams kill the wrong pet.
Both pets do 65% of the damage of the normal pet.
Mend pet also heals you for 2% or so HP every 2 seconds with 2 pets instead of 1% if you have 1 pet. (with leech pet)
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I prefer vers > haste > crit > mastery.
Mastery scales as our lowest simming secondary stat in most cases.
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Eh, the alternative would be killer instinct which can make for slightly harder hitting KCs when they are low. But overall you’re not really there for burst perse in 2s as BM. You’re there as a constant pressure dumping damage safely and able to abuse LoS as needed to keep yourself up.
The higher overall damage from AC I think works out in the hunter’s favor as dampening slowly ramps up, judging from my own (lesser) experience and from what I’ve seen of many other high rated BM players.
Smoothes out the rotation some more, makes keeping frenzy up easier, and scales well with flayed shot. I think you could stack crit > haste potentially but that’s more of a preference / team comp thing.
Is the general consensus that venthyr is best for BM pvp over Kyrian? Is it worth the swap? Sitting at 1900 playing BM would love to push 2.1k wondering if this would be a noticeable difference. Thanks for any input!
I think both are still solid. I have 2 Kyrian and 1 Venthyr currently.
I really enjoy the extra pressure from the higher damage from Venthyr during the fight, but finishing fights while shooting through walls at high dampening is great also.
I don’t think your rating will be significantly different based on your covenants.
Thanks for the input. How hard are the improved Kill shots hitting for on average from the flayed shot proc?
I’m ilvl 220 doing 4k kill shots still. Luck crits hit people for 7ks
Unfortunately because Bliz is Bliz… kill shot is really just slightly inconvenience shot.
BM hunters self damage doesn’t scale with secondary stats well (only Vers) Kill Shot on a MM hits harder because Mastery and Vers increases damage.
Also, right now the way Kill Shot interacts with Fleyed Shot on low health targets you don’t get your normal kill shot and a fleyed shot proc one, where MM can use skill giving the 2 charges of Kill Shot which help with this issue.
If Bliz increased damage for BM hunters and made the interaction better it would be a very good ability.
Thanks for the input. I can tell you from my experience as MM in pvp kill shot still hits like a soft pillow as Kyrian. And in pvp noone takes the double kill shot talent.
I was hoping with the 30% increase damage to kill shot from flayed shot KS proc and conduit damage increase it would hit harder. I had heard some people say they have got crits for 15k.
As MM I have seen 15k crits, haven’t approached that as a BM. I am 209!
I have a build that is based around using the legendary, the talent, and the PvP talent to all extend the duration and reduce the CD of Aspects and trueshot and also increase the duration of trueshot. This is only build I do t take double tap and use the 2nd charge of kill shot.
Steaming now on a 2200 alt.
Alt Hunter?
I have 3 hunters from 2100 to 2400 in 2s, and 1800 / 2700 in 3s.
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