Streamers are detrimental to WoW

Exactly. When you get someone who comes, and says “I know what is wrong. This is to blame. Listen to me.” that person is often the last person to listen to. It’s risky, and although some gems might be in that pile, ignore the pile to be safe.

Quite a big assumption on how or why people watch streamers

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It’s an assumption someone who watches streamers often can make, and anyone with logic can make too. It sucks to hear, hell it sucks to say, but you know and I know that people gravitate to leaders, they gravitate to the most charming in the room. Give that charming man a microphone, he might say nice things, popular sentiments, but often are not accountable for the accuracy of their opinions.

I don’t fully agree with this post, but I do agree with parts so I’m just gonna highlight my main favorites and dislikes of this.

I agree with Bosses and Raiding. Not classes. I do think that one should remember your opinion is not law. It’s how you feel but you don’t speak for every player.

That’s like, yorue opinion man. I do like classes a lot better in this expansion than I did in BFA, but just because a good amount feel good to me does not mean that’s the majority population. That’s just that the majority of classes feel great to you. There are plenty of people that are frustrated with their classes and a lot of beta feedback was outright ignored.

This exactly. IO 100% agree with this point. I’d add that Blizzard needs to stop trying to reinvent the wheel but I think this is an absolutely a great point.

There are definitely cult-like streamer followers like everyone’s favorite youtuber to hate. but I do think that a lot of them hit points shared by the general playerbase.

A huge problem right now is blizzard is writing off these opinions as “minor” and placing the blame on the streamers rather than admitting that players are genuine just unhappy with their game. Which, right now, is actually quite the case.

Yeah, they should only do unpopular things.

Your ironically ranting about streamers and complaining their toxic on a forum alt so you have extra anonymity for toxic behavior.

Yes.
WW3 will be based on an Asmongold transmog competition.
:rofl:

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I watch some because they are entertaining. I think you are taking streamers far to seriously… its a form of entertainment

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I’m still wrapping my mind around the notion that an entire generation actually likes watching other kids play video games.

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The ends never justify the means. Even if streamers have valid criticisms they are always at the whim of the mob. Their job is to cultivate the mob.

The paradox of streaming is that like modern advertising it is generally a great evil suffered but individuals. Just look around at society. Any time the masses make decisions it results in total and utter tragedy.

Hence you have a mob of people insulting devs and individuals for decisions made by a few corporate executives. Streaming with ad revenue is unfortunately a much greater evil than milking players for money by blizzard.

The fact people know who they are should say something…

I understand that feeling that classes don’t need work is an opinion, but I do think it is a fact that class balance, and class rotation are not the main cause of an expansions failures. It’s a major part of the gameplay loop, but we can both agree that when the house is on fire, put out the fire instead of getting a new fridge right?

We can always get a fridge. Once WoW stops rubberbanding with it’s insane system changes due to popular, but often unrepresentative of the majority opinions, we can focus on class, do you agree?

Not really. I’m not ranting. It’s an observation. Their is nothing subjective about my post.

But look at you! You just made fun of all the people who died during ww2 with your cute little emoji and lightheartedness towards the evil of it.

It’s tone deafness that’s what’s funny here.

The rich 5% of WoW players in a never ending fart smelling contest.

Meanwhile casual players are basically telling Blizz to f off and leaving.

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Most streams are more to do with the streamer personality than the actual game.

You never watch tv?

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Don’t,
Ever watch scanners… if so that is what will happen.

Disagree. As much as I fundamentally disagree with some streamers regarding the state of the game, streamers are an essential tool for marketing a game in the year 2021.

Blizzard needs to realize that these people have a lot of influence. They can’t break a game singlehandedly, but they can get a lot of people interested in theory.

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Of course your not.
Ranting would look very different than this
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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So wrong. Streamers are a powerful voice in the game right now. See what’s happening with FF14? Streamers have a direct impact on the souls/brains of a chunk of WoW’s population. To say they are simply entertainment is folly. Entertainment sells, but flaming, seething rage and drama sells far more, and you can see it happening left and right.

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I can’t just go act on TV, but I can play a video game. Why would I watch someone do something I like to do, and can easily do? That being said, how many actors would watch someone act in the same role they just performed, or that they perform on a weekly basis?

These days… not really, no. It’s all crap. Because crap was what people supported, so crap is what we all got.

Sounds like this streamer nonsense is following the same trajectory, judging by this thread.

Edit: Case in point:

You get what you support.

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Ranting is a long, angry, and impassioned speech. are you in the room with me here right now?

I wasn’t even angry about how you nonchalantly brushed off all the people who died in ww2. Fair enough. I’m actually setting an example for you to follow of how to speak objectively without anger.

You on the other hand are clearly triggered and ranting yourself. Proving my point…