I think reaching an understanding is the best way to solve problems. Something can’t be properly handled if there’s no understanding of it. Understanding is not the same as excusing. It can give way to sympathy, but that does not mean that there shouldn’t be consequences. Understanding is a step in a process.
I’m not sure if I’m part of this group but I’m 29.
Being part of an institution doesn’t mean supporting it. He has more in common with the government that came before the Soviet Union. He wants to make a Russian empire, not a Communist one. In regards to fascism, I don’t think such an ideology needs a connection to communism. Communism doesn’t seem to have had a large part in Italy’s situation during WW2.
Interestingly in my experience the worst posters are always either really young people (19 year old me was a menace) like late teens, or people who are like 35-40 and still getting into internet video game fights for some reason.
I feel like if you don’t “get out” of being chronically online (in behavior if not in practice) in your 20s, you are doomed forever.
So did the Russians! Then they, quite literally, got stuck in traffic as it was too muddy for their vehicle lines to move anywhere but a small, very long, very chokable road on the way to Kyiv. And if we’re uncertain that US levels of airpower are enough to really defeat former Soviet levels of anti-air, that goes doubly true for Russian levels of airpower versus former Soviet levels of anti-air…
No effective power projection. All for the Olympics.
Oh boy… listen if you want to be ignorant of history despite so much freely available information I doubt I would be successful on a world of warcraft story forum.
I mean, this is real History. Stalin fully believed Hitler was his Ally all the way up to the day he invaded Russia.
They are both Economic systems rooted from a socialist foundation. One has an emphasis on Nationalism, the bundle of sticks analogy. The other has a focus of fair distribution according to one’s needs.
Both Socialist ideas. Distinct in ideology but not in practice. Each end up serving a large and oppressive State.
I highly suggest you go put some more thought and research into the topic because you are vastly understating and - incorrectly so - horribly misrepresenting the actual history of German-Russo relations leading up to Barbarossa.
Akiyass is not so far away saying that. Fascism is the… bastard son of socialism and nacionalistm, an unholy union that always end bad; Even if fascism is not truly a leftist ideology, that’s why was called “the third way” and appeared (and appears) when the left fails.
I’m sorry, but I can’t let so much misinformation go uncorrected.
Mussilini was not influenced by Lenin during his time as a revolutionary columnist, he was influenced by Marxism, a common ideology he shared with Lenin. But that’s where the connections stop.
Socialism and Fascism share very similar ideologies, but the most noteable difference is Socialism is very anti-free Market Capitalism. Where Fascism has no opposition to free market capitalism.
Communism was actually really big in Italy during the lead up to WW2 it was the second most popular political party at the time. The PCI Partito Comunista Italiano which succeeded the Italian Socialist party, Partito Socialista Italian. leading up the the second World War. Mussolnii was brefily a member of the Italian Socialist party but he was rejected from this paty due to his radical nationalism ideology.
This radical nationalism ideology, was the reason why he found common ground with the man who’s name starts with H. N@zism was originally termed Nationalsozialismus, aka National Socialism.
Stalin was absolutely not a nationalist and would have never seen H as an “ally” Stalin was a member of The Working Party, and anti-nationalist labour party. He followed in Lenin’s footsetps taking over the Communist Party of the Soviet Union which was once the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party. Even though they are Communist. The political party was categorized politically as Democratic Centrist. It’s why Stalin is still considered a Russian hero to this day.
Stalin did keep a copy of Mein Kampf on his nightstand, but that was because he believed he could defeat his enemy if he was able to get into their head and think like they would. It was a way to ‘study’ his opponent. He’s usually looked back on historically in a very favorable light as an interesting person.
While you covered a lot of misinformation put her wonderfully, the slight fondness and favor you put to Stalin is likely misplaced.
Nearly all historical figures - no matter how horrid they are - usually have interesting traits to them, after all history favors the unique. Stalin has a very checkered history in post war and even present day Russia. I’m not going to go too far into it on a WoW forum but considering the topic of Hitler v. Stalin is a history of monsters, I’d just like to leave off that Stalin is by far from a figure to be admired, even by his own people, nor was his government and rule adhering to Lenin’s Or Marx’s desire for communism.
That’s likely true, I’m in no way saying he’s a good guy. Just this one factoid about him in regards to being well read and an intellegent man is often praised by WW2 historians. Contextually, in WW2 he was considered a Russian national hero. But yeah communism has always been a slippery slope into fascism, that’s why we in the West generally frown upon it.
Oh, sure, so was Hitler and most world leaders, bad and good alike. You usually don’t get into center stage of a society by being a dummy.
… Usually.
As per your last point, yeah, well. It’s difficult for many people to even describe the Soviet Union as actual communism and a lot of the West’s fear of communism and socialism alike is misplaced due to things like the Red Scare.
After all that’s why dummies in the West think the Third Reich was socialist which… hurts me… but if there is one thing we’re good at is being susceptible to misinformation, half truths, and historical biases.
