I mean communism (outside of anarcho-communism) as I understand it can only be Auth Left since it advocates centralization of power and, in most cases, dictatorship of the proletariat. At least as an intermediate stage (afaik communist societies never made it past that stage as of now though)
Yeah, basically the Sapply test says we are all communists
The US government better not view this forum.
My problem with governments and businesses is neither one is to be trusted to have the best interest of the people in mind. The bigger the business or government, the more authoritian(misspelled I know) they get
I was a Hillary Voter. Even against Obama. I consider myself a Clinton Democrat, even though that is practically no longer a thing. I am not a big fan of Bernie. But I will try your test, just for kicks.
Thatâs why I am not a fan of these sorts of things. I might do them for fun, but I do not take the labels too seriously. I get called or sorts of things - people on the Left say I am far right, people on Right say I am Far left.
For example - I am pro choice. I believe a woman should have the right to choose if she carries a child to term. I have very few qualms about a cutoff date - I might negotiate with a 6 month or 3 month ban, to get the law passed, but personally, I think a woman should be able to abort at any point. That view would be considered far Left.
And I am also pro Death Penalty. Some crimes deserve it. These days, it seems like mass shooters get rewarded with free room and board for life, on the Governmentâs dime. It is a terrible example to set. I wish we would put them on trial, show the mountains of evidence, and then be rid of them promptly. Being pro death penalty would get me called Far Right by some.
Thatâs a core left libertarian value notice the Sapply test had little to no questions on business regulations or thoughts on a free trade economy. Itâs missing the whole libertarian to Authortarian spectrum of questions. It only defines left to right.
I am also pro death penalty, I still score left. This test is only to help people vote according to thier values. It doesnât define your whole life.
Iâm sorry if I have made you feel like this label will define how I feel about you. Contrary to popular belief here, I donât care about peopleâs personal politics, unless those politics are extreeme or offensive, those cases are rare. I care about peopleâs attitudes. You have shown me Curse, that you are a good person.
Being centrist or left doesnât make Evelyssa a good person. I dislike him because heâs a rude, predatory and agressive person, who calls me and my friends names when he doesnât get what he wants. Same with Thadeus. It"s behavour that makes me like some people over others. I gave Thadeus the benefit if the doubt until he started dealing in absolutes (insert Obi-wan voice âOnly a Sith deals in absolutesâ) I disagree with many people but I rarely block people over opinions unless they are extreemely offensive. Only a handful of people have been extreemely offensive or hurtful.
Yeah Iâll try the test you linked for funnies and report back hehe.
I expect to be shunned for my militant pro government left wing views.
You will be in good company
Were all apparently communists
So I just finished the Ren Test - it says I am:
-6 X , -3 Y
Pretty deep into the Green Box = Left Wing/Libertarian
While on Eveâs test I was like -4X, 4Y, pretty deep into the red box.
I do like Green better. Personally I wear a lot of Green Clothes and I have 0 red clothes.
Kind of funny one test has me as a Communist Statist, and the other has me as a Libertarian. I did these tests more for fun and to chat with you guys. Not to take very seriously. Both tests seem to agree I am on the Left, at least.
Green is exactly where I thought youâd be iâm glad you are happy with your result.
North American politics generally voters are are either green or blue. Now look at where you voted with a Hilary vote.
https://politicalcompass.org/uselection2016
Do you see now how this can be a tool to help you vote based on your political values? When I said above, I think many Americans are lefists trapped in a right-wing majority government itâs because Republican or Dem they are both Authoritarian right. Which is contrary to your values. So of course you feel let down constantly by your government. There is no one who represents your views in the running.
I am critical of the right wing of american politics because there is no leftist libertarian options. USA is Conservative Authoritarian government and itâs totally okay to be anti-government.
You call anyone you donât like rude and predatory. I might be rude, sure, but Iâm not predatory. I call you names because youâve called me names. Iâm not going to baby you when youâve been impolite. Reality doesnât work that way.
From an external point of view, it seems as if North American societies are incredibly polarized politically, especially when it comes to societal matters such as abortion LGBT+ rights and death penalty. Itâs a tendency that we mostly didnât share until the Covid vaccine stuff happened and it was/is pretty ugly. I consider myself as falling somewhere on the large spectrum of anarchism but I fear giving too much credit to peopleâs opinions might be a dangerous move. Opinions are extremely volatile. In most cases I think itâs best not to give them too much value when it comes to appreciating a person
Apparently I am libertarian left according to the test.
Thats odd because I have always thought libertarianism is dumb af.
Libertariansim is interchangable with the word âprogressiveâ you are a progressive left, anti-authoritarian, anti-conservative.
You are nowhere close to alt right. Alt-right people are close to the authoritarian right corner. Those are the extreemist right.
Antifa or âanti-facismâ is anti-authoritarianism. People on the extreeme right call people who are anti-authoritarian âthe extreeme leftâ but I think thatâs a very hurtful label. Authoritarianism is bad no matter if itâs left or right. Authoritarian right is Capitalism, Authoritarian left is Communism, both of these are equally anti-progressive and facist. Being âantifaâ is a GOOD thing, you reject totalitarian state control, you are neither Capitalist or Communist.
Libertarian right and libertarian left are both anti-facist, anti-state. So be warry of anyone who judges you for being antifa because they either want you to be ruled by extreeme Capitolism or extreeme Communism.
So I know this sounds cliche but The Hunger Games books were an essay on how authoritarian capitalism and authoritarian communism were equally destructive and instead of killing Snow, Katniss kills president Alma Coin who is communist, and the people kill Snow representing Capitalism and Hunger Games is one big antifa frachise lol⌠out of all the teen girl fiction, the distopian political ones are the best.
This franchise is cheesy at times, the book was better, but the progaganda is really good. Especially the Mockingjay ones that paint Katniss in poses reminicent of USSR propoganda posters.
You called me a sexual predator once. So cut the BS. Youâre a weirdo who causes nothing but problems
I think this sums up the American political divide quite well;
Suffuce to say itâs a lot of very angry people who donât seem to know why theyâre even outside. Fascism is built with confused, useful idiots so I can certainly appreciate the rancor from the Leftish counter protestors. But they also sum up my frusturation pretty well as it looks like directionless anger from people more interested in righteous indignation than actionable goals.
Reminds me of the people calling for a General Strike after the Roe V Wade upturning. That requires coalitions of strong unions across industries to even begin to organize. You canât just get a hash tag going and hope it pans out.
Yeah but when both your Republican and Democrat politicians are Authoratarian right and are against unionization, sometimes the only way to fight back is to be vocally angry and protest, or get violent and revolt. The left are fighting the status quo. Itâs the people protecting the status quo that worries me because the government has just created radicalized Authoritarian watchdogs to police the dissenters. They are vigilantes for a corrupt totalitarian government, look at that kid who shot people at a peaceful black lives matter protest⌠or a couple weeks ago, the U-haul full of armed white supremists going to cause fear and violence at a Pride parade.
Authoritarians are willing to use force and control. Thats the difference that polarizes us. We are not polarized between left and right. We are polarized between Libertarian and Authoritarian. If it was about Right and Left Trump would be against China but Authortarian left is just as bad as Authoritarian right, they both want state control.
If you were right about me being a delusional paranoid who holds petty grudges, I would say âpot, meet kettleâ. Since thatâs not the case and weâre being upfront, based on this and previous statements, I call you a lying, passive-aggressive hypocrite prone to projection.
I never said people have to disagree on everything. I just know Renautus had been almost as disingenuous about Smallioz as sheâs been about me. That doesnât mean I expect him to hold âpetty grudgesâ, I just thought heâd know better than to take Renautusâ libel about me at face value.
You have the same name as the Renautus in this thread with a black-haired blood elf avatar who myself, Evelysaa and others have clashed with repeatedly, and espouse similar views. Thatâs quite suspicious. Could this be a second account to sock-puppet and/or evade a ban?
I mean that was thwarted by local police and a bystander who thought it was concerning they saw a bunch of weirdos in khakis with sticks march into the back of a U Haul.
These arent the Black Panthers. Theyâre not organizing mutual care programs for impoverished children or trying to organize larger scale action. Itâs mostly stuff like;
I have not commented anything on anyoneâs character here recently.
My only quote to you was a criticism of skeptiscims for climate change.
You responded but the thread had become so tit for tat fighting I just didnt want to join the fray yesterday
And I donât either today honestly. Too much to do.