The addon that blizz banned back in cata must be back because STORMRAGE ALLIANCE players keep queuing up in groups of 8-10 and its seriously screwing up random bg’s.
I have no idea why, but I’m flagged to be included in each and every one of them. 9-10 random bg’s get me pulled into their premade. I thought I was imagining it but when I queue with other people they get caught up in it also and tell me that they never get pulled into Stormrage premade until they queue with me. Something is going on. I even decided to queue alliance merc and I got pulled into an 8 man Illidan horde premade which I another group of people that need to get banned. In-game reporting is not slowing this at all.
last time I checked, coordinating queues to queue in a random BG with more than 5 people is a bannable offense yet BLIZZ is doing absolutely nothing to stop it.
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Got a quote?
That doesn’t sound right.
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the title killed me cheat ques … since when did they ever ban sync queing nor need an addon to do it consistently except for epic bgs like av and isle of conquest?
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yea man if they ever catch you queing at the same time as other ppl your dead meat bucko
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Fun fact. Ive played numerous games with 6-9 players from my server that were not premade. Its almost like the most popular ally server has people playing. Wow crazy concept.
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Back in cata there was an addon that was innocently created to help bypass the 5 man restrictions in random bg’s. Blizz purposely removed raid forming for bg’s. So this addon was developed so you can coordinate 2 five mans to join. Blizz caught on to it and stared 2 week banning people and it eventually went away. I know this for a fact because I was doing it on alliance back then before it was considered bannable.
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This just seems like one big coincidence to me. How do you know that one guild didn’t just have ten people all join at the same time? Repeatedly. And, as luck would have, they all got into the same bg.
For reals though, nobody reads this forum that could or would do anything about it. I’m afraid you’re just going to have up deal with it
Source on this?
You can sit thru the loss or afk out, those are the only real 2 choices when dropped into a premade vs pugs match.
And no, I don’t believe it breaks any rules to premade (that I’m aware of anyways). If it was against the rules/TOS to play bgs with friends then so many people wouldn’t be doing it.
Anyways, buckle up because next week is bg week… if you thought premades were bad now, just wait til they have even more incentive to premade w/ the bg week +50% honor bonus 
No it’s syncing in Discord to hit the join button when the bg pops. 1, 2 , 3, Join. Did it for AV to get 25 players in a bg. Great fun for us, crap for the opponent. It’s not coincidence when you deliberately sync in Discord, there is a chance that some grps get into a different bg, but it does work for sure, because you come up against the same players for 3-4 bgs.
I notice on the EU servers the Russians do it a lot too.
The worse the experience normal players get while solo queuing, the fewer will queue, increasing the chance that the ones who still solo queue will come up against premades.
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There is no addon being used. They’re simply counting down from 5 and queuing together at 1.
It’s not bannable and Blizzard really can’t stop it with the current queue system.
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You don’t even need an add on for this, you can literally just do a count down and it works a lot of the time
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Since when did Blizzard ever ban circumventing restrictions for unfair advantages over the other team?
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There used to be an addon called Preform Av Enabler. It allowed the raid lead to automate the queueing and accepting of queues for the entire raid, assuming each raid member had the add on installed.
The add on API that allowed for this to function was deprecated in Mists of Pandaria. Now what has never been against TOS , is two , five man parties queueing together over voice comm.
I have seen a lot of griping on the forums about 10-15 man premade groups over the last few weeks, and while I’m sure there are a select few groups and guilds doing this, more than likely its just high pop servers with unrelated people queuing in small groups.
If you see 8 or 9 people from the same server in a battleground that does not mean they are all queueing together. It most likely because, as a fresh alt, battleground queuing is right now an effective way at getting a decent set of gear, even for PvE.
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I remember reading a blue post addressing it stating blizzard was starting to investigate and initiating temporary bans for using it. I’m sure it deprecated because the author of the addon did not want to continue the use of it.
Everyone needs to realize that at some point blizzard disabled raid groups from queueing into random bg’s. You needed absolutely nothing but to form a raid and queue. They purposely eliminated raid groups to limit premade to 5 to slow down honor farming. So it makes absolute sense for them to get upset about people bypassing an in-game restriction. I’m not making this up because I lived through it.
I get the whole concept of a bunch of people from the same server coincidentally getting thrown into the same bg. You can actually tell the difference because the entire team isn’t hard swapping on you.
There is a reason why some of these posts are asking for evidence. Maybe they are worried that what they are doing is bannable. And yes, if you’re not using an addon, then countdown queues over discord is not bannable. Then that’s on Blizz to put realm caps of 5 for bg’s to make sure it’s being blocked.
You can google Preform Av Enabler and you will get the link to curse forge on it so you can see I’m not making this up. Thanks @sweepsz for the reminder.
Edit: Google “AV Preform Enabler Blue Post” and there’s an article from MMO champion that shows the original blue post in it. It leads you to page 5 where they post an older post from Blizz that the commenter is using to justify the use of the add-on. But if you go to the first page of the thread, there is a blue post where blizzard admits it’s difficult to enforce but that it is a bannable offense. That blue Post supersedes the one mentioned on page 5. This is what the blue post from an employee named Vaneras:
“This is not something that we are encouraging, but it is also something that we currently have no realistic way to prevent. That being said, this is something that may change soon, which is why we always advise people to not use any type of add-on designed to circumvent or bend our balancing safeguards… using such add-ons can lead to severe account penalties!”
“Circumventing Balancing Safeguards” is the term.
most of the premades doing coordinated countdowns aren’t doing that either. my guess is its not even RBG teams but PVE teams doing the anima quest. people who dont pvp often have the impression that a premade for randoms is akin to an RBG team with discord coordination and careful selection of only the best players.
in reality 99.999% of premades are friends and community groups, which is basically just pvp friends. even multi group premades in epics are still using bg chat for calls and talk.
if anything blizz needs to go the other way and allow for larger premade groups in epics, there is demand for large group coordinated epics, on any given night WGE could fill at least a 20 man premade if not a full 40 man, and if we could do it, so could every other epic comm.
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I will never be against friends playing together. I love it. 5 man pre-made bg’s is very fun. Even when the other 5 people helping out are complete mouth breathers! If two 5 man groups are sitting on discord and they do a countdown click to join then that’s where the topic of this discussion lays. And honestly, I have no problem facing that situation maybe 1 or twice a day maybe 2/10 matches. But it literally is a 9/10 match situation for me. Maybe it’s my account being flagged to compete against such groups or something because I talk to other people and they tell me they do not have this issue as bad as I do. I literally said, “F it, if I can’t beat them I’ll join em!” and qued alliance merc and ended up facing an Illidan Horde premade of 9. I even invited 1 friend together and he witnessed for himself how every single BG we got thrown into was vs a pre-made. we did 6 bg’s and all were vs premades. (I particularly see stormrage, hence the title) Then he solo queued for a couple of hours and he came up against 1 pre-made. He even queues with his wife and they got zero premades.
The current game modes are the real issue since if there is really a demand for what you’re talking about then Blizz should make an epic battleground with raid groups enabled to queue and there is your dream come true. I want an ACTUAL MERCENARY MODE where it’s solo queue only and they mix players from both factions on your team so there are no long queue times, balanced healer comps, and you get to experience dealing with fighting classes of your faction’s races.
The realm of this discussion is with random bg’s (10-15 man) where most of the population plays in for “fun”. Rated gameplay is a whole other topic hence why this particular forum is even divided. Random bg means the setting you get, I get that…but random also means the individuals engaged in it. Pre mades are not random.
Blizz should just create a script that bundles group queues to face group queues and let them sit there and rot waiting for the opposite faction premade to form and they can all go fight together. The long queue will balance out the amount of honor they gain per hour which will then keep actually solo queues obtaining honor at the same rate as them.