Like you do.
Yes, a themed expansion item for an expansion after years of hard work to go with the expansion is fine. Constantly adding random items that could have been incorporated into the game itself and charging $20-30 for them is not fine.
There’s quite a big difference between the two.
Definitely not, read what I just said.
It is nothing new that RPGs are offering in-game items for real world money. Many games are doing that, and it is likely what is the most effective marketing strategy for profits/revenue.
WoW must adapt to this environment, but it must also provide engaging content for free. If the players can tell that future armor sets, available for in-game activities, are lackluster while the costume armor sets, available for real world money, are better, then that is a major problem and a sign of greedy behavior.
Transmogs have changed WoW retail forever. This game is shifting more and more into character customization and fashion. If the game earns sufficient revenue from these types of customizations, we will have more costumes and possibly player housing.
Elder Scrolls Online offers costumes and houses in exchange for crowns, which are purchased with money. The major difference between ESO and WoW is that ESO is built around aesthetics much more than WoW. And ESO has had years of development and research in player housing.
The housing in ESO is AWESOME. WoW should follow suit to keep up in these present times, but it must not forsake its loyal customer base who wish to be able to earn nice looking sets with in-game activity and NOT money.
Over half of what’s added isn’t random. There’s Chinese New Year Mounts added at GASP Chinese New Year.
There’s things like the transmog, which can easily be seen as a preview for Ardenweald. Etc.
That’s fine, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. However you don’t have to be mean about someone’s else’s interests or things that make them upset.
at some point, you have to grow a thicker skin, not everything is right to be said but life in general isnt about hiding in a safe space
GD is as far from a safe space as it gets.
given how some persons hide or report posts that goes againts what they think is right or wrong, they try to turn everything into safe spaces
Supporting the game is great. That’s what collectors editions and out of game products are for.
And…the store items as well.
It’s not your preference. But Blizzard has made this a revenue stream for quite some time. Why would a purchase from the store not be in the same vein as other products that you do approve of?
I don’t have to buy everything from the store. I choose the items I like.
As you may notice I have some of the pets and the mounts from a 6 month sub which I choose as a slight savings in cost. Now I have this transmog set that I don’t really care for but it does look cute on gnomes.
Gnomes are the cutest.
They did sell trading cards for the longest time as well. I don’t know how much or if any of that went back into the game, but it was money for Blizzard at least.
Buy it with gold if you don’t want to spend cash. This is a non issue, and the cash shop way of doing things is the future of MMo’s. I’m honestly surprised WoW hasn’t gone full blown free to play yet.
Have people really gotten so cheap they are going to whine about a cosmetic item in a cash shop? Give me a break.
It should be noted they gave up the sex change feature in the cash shop and turned that to be a free service. But Oh no blizzard is evil so lets not mention that. It doesn’t serve the agenda.
Also not what the thread is about…you’d think after making a fool out of yourself once and getting called out
Looool hardly "called out " you just can’t accept that people are okay with buying a $20 tmog. Not sorry you can’t afford it 🤷
honestly I think most of this is streamer related hate. Some streamer likely said something against and now all the mindless zombies are parroting it.
They are probably streamer sheep.
They put more work into this one store transmog set than all of Nyalotha’s gear put together. So sad. D:
That’s how it feels…and the fact that there’s store gear at all is what really sucks. Imagine if they made a darkmoon faire questline or a story about us becoming one with the fae dragons and pretending we’re one of them.
Imagine getting this upset
Yes, people get upset over all sorts of things. You don’t find this valid, that’s fine. Many people do.
For the past couple hours you haven’t stopped throwing insults. Spare me.
Which you started by trying to say my opinion was dumb and all sorts of other insults prior to that…so re-read what you wrote and look in a mirror. I even said we could be twinners and you got mad and said someone would have to pay you
It is nothing new that RPGs are offering in-game items for real world money. Many games are doing that, and it is likely what is the most effective marketing strategy for profits/revenue.
And Blizzard was one of the only companies that hadn’t for the longest time. Their business models and practices when ran by the original owners and founders were legendary among the industry and what made many people fall in love with the company as a whole prior to it changing hands.
WoW must adapt to this environment, but it must also provide engaging content for free. If the players can tell that future armor sets, available for in-game activities, are lackluster while the costume armor sets, available for real world money, are better, then that is a major problem and a sign of greedy behavior.
Fair point, but I still don’t like the idea of transmog being in the shop at all still considering we’re paying for the most expensive sub in the industry even from the start, yearly expansions…adding all this on top of an in-game shop, server transfer fees of $30, character recustoms for $25, re-naming fees of $10…It’s getting out of hand in my opinion.
Transmogs have changed WoW retail forever. This game is shifting more and more into character customization and fashion.
Which I love!
If the game earns sufficient revenue from these types of customizations, we will have more costumes and possibly player housing.
Kind of a leap, but maybe!
The major difference between ESO and WoW is that ESO is built around aesthetics much more than WoW.
And WoW has a full free to play version, their subscription is optional.
The housing in ESO is AWESOME. WoW should follow suit to keep up in these present times, but it must not forsake its loyal customer base who wish to be able to earn nice looking sets with in-game activity and NOT money.
As player housing is something I really don’t care about but I know a lot of people do, I’d be completely fine if they made player housing a completely optional cash shop only purchasable thing and never add anymore pets, mounts, toys, or transmogs to it.
Over half of what’s added isn’t random. There’s Chinese New Year Mounts added at GASP Chinese New Year.
In a game that has nothing to do with Chinese new years…meanwhile collectors editions of the game are gasps launches of loads of new content that they worked hard on that we’ll be playing for the next year!
There’s things like the transmog, which can easily be seen as a preview for Ardenweald. Etc.
Literally has nothing to do with Ardenweald other than the fact that It’s a fae dragon, though…
at some point, you have to grow a thicker skin, not everything is right to be said but life in general isnt about hiding in a safe space
…What are you on about? Voicing my disagreement with how the game is being ran has nothing to do with your buzz word “safe space”
given how some persons hide or report posts that goes againts what they think is right or wrong, they try to turn everything into safe spaces
100% agree with that. High elf players holding the forums hostage for a year was a nightmare.
It’s not your preference. But Blizzard has made this a revenue stream for quite some time. Why would a purchase from the store not be in the same vein as other products that you do approve of?
I think collectors editions are fine because It’s once a year, It’s 1 item for each game they developed and it’s about the theme of the expansion. I mean I’d be fine if they took out all collectors editions and made all the items obtainable in-game, but It’s different than non-stop adding random mounts, toys, pets, and transmogs into the game constantly instead of just making them available to be obtained in-game like literally everything else we pay for with expansions & monthly subs.
As you may notice I have some of the pets and the mounts from a 6 month sub which I choose as a slight savings in cost.
I understand people’s opinions of “well it’s free 'cause I pay for 6 month subs anyway” I think those people should get rewarded in some way, however if they want to have a cash shop they should lower the sub price, make it optional, or server transfers, character re-names etc should be free with a 1 month sub waiting period between each change like other game’s do.
I think It’s just blatant greed as the motivator, combined with the fact that we could get cool and engaging fun content from it, it just screws the customer over more.
They did sell trading cards for the longest time as well. I don’t know how much or if any of that went back into the game, but it was money for Blizzard at least.
Which I was 100% fine with, I had some of the cards myself. A perfect example of how to make more money off the franchise without upsetting your customer base, in fact making most of them happier with cool stuff to buy.
Buy it with gold if you don’t want to spend cash. This is a non issue, and the cash shop way of doing things is the future of MMo’s. I’m honestly surprised WoW hasn’t gone full blown free to play yet.
Anyone who knows anything about Blizzard knows it’s because they USED to be one of the best gaming developers in the industry, plethora of large companies tried to copy the way they did things.
Have people really gotten so cheap they are going to whine about a cosmetic item in a cash shop? Give me a break.
It’s not even about money necessarily, I want my content to revolve around engaging in-game content, not paying money for it.
It should be noted they gave up the sex change feature in the cash shop and turned that to be a free service. But Oh no blizzard is evil so lets not mention that. It doesn’t serve the agenda.
Oh wow, Blizzard made it so we don’t have to pay $30 to change our sex, yet still charge $30 to transfer servers, $10 to change your name, and $35 to change factions.
Looool hardly "called out " you just can’t accept that people are okay with buying a $20 tmog. Not sorry you can’t afford it 🤷
For the 4th time, has nothing to do with what any of this is about…It’s about not wanting in-game content stripped and sold for more money…the transmog could have had a great questline, achievment, etc. attached to it, but no, we just have o pay money and It’s meaningless.
honestly I think most of this is streamer related hate.
Nope, I’ve hated every addition to the cash shop since its inception. We’re paying a monthly sub and for expansions, why are we getting charged for the development of everything that used to be in expansions…?
So let’s remove every in-game holiday that exists because of a real life holiday, shall we? Cause you literally just said that.
Also, we have Lunar New Year for Chinese New Year, so try again.
I’m ignoring you now. You will create any excuse you can when someone says something that disproves you.
Nope, I’ve hated every addition to the cash shop since its inception. We’re paying a monthly sub and for expansions, why are we getting charged for the development of everything that used to be in expansions…?
As time goes on, wages increase as does the price of maintaining services. Yet the price of subscriptions have not changed and the price of the box has only changed by 10 dollars which recently been reverted if you choose to not purchase the level boost with it. The optional items are added so they do not have to increase the subscription fee. Which you would probably cry about, even though I doubt you whine when tomatoes and meat goes up in price with the yearly wage increases.
For the 4th time, has nothing to do with what any of this is about…It’s about not wanting in-game content stripped and sold for more money…the transmog could have had a great questline, achievment, etc. attached to it, but no, we just have o pay money and It’s meaningless.
To sum up this whole thread that is exactly what this is about you want free things handed to you to earn in-game bcuz apperantly paying $20 is bad even tho you pay more for your reaccuring sub time .
Idk bout you but imma go get ready for work so I can buy more $20 tmog sets they decide to throw at me
So let’s remove every in-game holiday that exists because of a real life holiday, shall we? Cause you literally just said that.
I don’t think the word literally means what you think it means…because I LITERALLY never said that…
I’m ignoring you now. You will create any excuse you can when someone says something that disproves you.
You can’t disprove my opinion on a topic I dislike…did you even read the thread…? You’re completely LAUGHABLE. Now be gone.
You can’t disprove my opinion on a topic I dislike
You already disproved them.
Someone thinks opinions can’t be wrong. I love these people. Yes an opinion can be factually wrong.