Stopped Looking For WoW Substitutes

I’ts relative, I know, and it’s all relative to me. Still, I hope that writing this will help to reinforce what I wrote in my Topic description.

First, WoW is the first game of its kind I have ever played on a computer and I joined in 2008 with Burning Crusade and fell in love.

Secondly, it took me a very long time to learn to actually play the game. I can still remember asking NPC’s how to get to a certain place and getting indignant when they wouldn’t answer me; also, I thought I could choose my own attributes (i.e. I wanted a warrior with intelligence as his main attribute), and it took some very kind people* to help me understand this (who are probably still talking and laughing at/about me).

It was because of that kindness that my third reason for staying came about - trying other games just did not measure up to the people I met (and continue to meet) here.

Also, I play the game (once I learned the fundamentals) differently from any other players I know of: I treat my characters like real people who get paid out of my gold reserves and get rewards when they level up. Other players who know of this accept it, and I like that as well.

But even so, I got a little weary and thought of looking at other games which were similar - and none of them seemed to measure up to what I was/am used to here. I came close several times, but no - there was always a reason for me to remain here. Either it was a “top-looking-down” game, a shooter, or I didn’t like the artwork.

Okay. I saved this one, but here’s one that many of you are probably already thinking of: “He’s old and set in his ways”. :rofl::grin: And ja, I agree with you there. I’m knocking on the door of 3/4ths of a century on the planet and maybe I’m just too comfortable to want to try something new.

Whatever the reason (s), I have decided to stop looking and enjoy what time is left to me and try to “keep up” with the new expansions.

I put that phrase in quotes up there because I’m finding it more and more difficult to remember stuff and even though it’s always been a goal to get those next 10 level points done, now it’s not. So much.

So all of the above reasons together became the major reason for stopping the “looking around” bit, and continuing to just enjoy the game and interacting with my fellow gamers.

One other thing: I like writing stories about my characters, Jonãs and his new family being one of these and …well, writing about them just brought us closer together, I guess.

So how about you, my friends? Have you found yourselves in similar situations, and did you go ahead and add a game/games to your rig?

  • If you are one of these folks, please know your kindness has not been forgotten and I thank you for many years of fun which you have made possible.
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Wow is the best game i can find to play for free, then again iv been playing since 2006

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The best part about this game, and I know it sounds crazy, but it’s the players.

We got trolls no doubt, but we also have so many passionate people playing, it’s fun to be part of the greater community sometimes.

The games social side got tossed in the garbage, but there are still some super cool people playing and when you bump into them you remember why you love this game so much.

I just randomly started helping a warrior do the elite bee quest in Dorn the other day, he was Prot and it was taking him forever, man we had fun, and the dude was so polite, it made my day actually, more so than getting a cool drop or w/e.

Just saying, the coolest part of WoW is the players.

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Same here, sometimes we just poke around in the open world when there’s only 2 or 3 on, but do instances with a full group.

But we always help each other out and laugh when someone say… trades a 3 star weapon enchant to a random stranger he mistakenly thought was the persons alt. Yea, the tool that accepted the trade didn’t stop our fun. Just made another and laughed it off.

So blizzard, when can members of the same guild trade things cross faction? It was kinda the cause of the confusion.

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Wildstar was pretty damn close to warcraft, but with a bit of warhammer vibe. Damn shame Wildstar died some years back.

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Ironically it’s what also killed the game.
Wasn’t the selling point “we’re ex wow devs, but we’re going to do it better!”? And ultimately that look resulted in horrible raid attunements and systems that stroked the ego of the 1%ers.

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We would have missed you if you’d left and stayed away.

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Firstly I want to thank you for this thread. Occasionally I find myself trying other games but since leaving a few other MMORPGS nothings quite ‘hit’ like WoW has.

90% of my IRL friends regularly play FFXIV so it’s one I dabble in, but I’ll be real… nowadays it’s just to give them company. The gameplay isn’t for me.

Before WoW I played Grand Fantasia also for about a decade, including a relationship from there and many lifelong friends.

Since coming over I’ve found the strongest part of this game is just how many things a new player can work on. Is probably why I see WoW as a game I’ll play into my mid-30s, 40s and into elderly ages. I like the spectrum of weird, whacky, friendly, crazy people I meet! Hope to go through each expansions endgame and collect a whole bunch more toys and learn more about the lore.

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I take breaks now and then but I find nothing scratches the itch quite like WoW. I tried FF14, SWTOR, GW2, Warframe and many others, and ultimately ended up bouncing off all of them.

Directionally the game is going where I want it to. It’s maddeningly SLOW at that (It took us almost 2 decades to get things other MMOs had right off the bat like account-wide progression and housing) but generally when the subs dip, the devs prioritize the things I want, and I end up returning. I’ll probably take more breaks in the future, but it’ll take a lot to get me to quit permanently.

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I recently went looking after growing weary of logging in and just staring at the character screen. In another thread, I was talking about Tinkers and Necromancers as future potential classes. I even pulled what I thought were fan based ideas to support my claims. Turns out, Conquest of Azeroth is a free to play, fully scaled, 100% customizable experience where I now enjoy playing a Gnome Bear/Cat Druid (since there are no specs, and have taking up Woodworker as a profession to log trees for extra XP as I am questing. It seems to be every bit of what I wanted from WoW, without the expense, or the excuses.

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It’s crazy to think that WoW is still the top dog of MMO’s 20 years on. The MMO genre is stale as hell. And other then FFXIV all the new ones kinda just come and go. And it’s not even like FFXIV is a newer game it’s 11 years old.

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I’ll be honest here:

You don’t need to go look for WoW substitutes, because when comes along that actually makes waves, you’ll know.

We all will, lol.

Also, the best part about other MMOs coming onto the scene, is that it forces Blizzard to act and actually improve WoW in order to keep players here.

Housing would not be coming, if there weren’t other MMOs in WoW’s periphery that constantly threatened to poach players for having a system WoW doesn’t. (Swtor, FF14, New World, most newer mmos)

There’s no way that only one game comes along like WoW- we’re gonna get another phenomenon of a game at some point, it just has to be that good.

It takes time and money, but I’m 100% sure we’ll get something someday.

There’s just too much interest for the idea of an updated MMO to just die.

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If you want to take a break from WOW, don’t play another MMO. That’s the mistake most people make. Play some single player games. Then everything will feel fresh when you come back.

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After playing XIV exclusively ever since I left BfA (but returning briefly to check DF’s storyline), I fully returned to WoW last October.

Happens that WoW currently fills what I’m looking for in action based content.

I think XIV’s characters (models, armor sets, etc) can feel more unique in a way than WoW’s, and that’s may be a big thing to keep somebody in, but the game there simply does not have long lasting action content right now that is engaging.

What was for me to do in XIV when I left:

  • Savage Raid prog (and was almost done with). Reclears aren’t simply fun because they’re too brainless.
  • PVP, but running the same Crystalline Conflict mode over and over gets old rather fast (and large scale PVP there is a huge chaotic unenjoyable mess).

What there is for me right now in WoW of repeatable content, disregarding the ‘catching up’ things that eat my time:

  • Delves
  • PVP (despite the MMR situation) with many different maps that work differently
  • Mild Mythic + keys
  • Normal raids
  • There’s a long grind with the reputations, that unlock a lot of things

So basically WoW is doing for me right now, with the type of features I want. I wish other games would… Maybe I should check GW2? Just have the base game.

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OP, I define myself in a situation similar to yours. I’ve been playing WoW for over a decade, and no other game, even no other successful MMO has had the same appeal for me over time. From the history, lore and aesthetics to the fluidity of the combat (even though I have my complaints about design and tuning), and especially the methodology of PvP… WoW for me captures something that perhaps nothing else even can when it comes to escapism, perhaps besides good fantasy or sci-fi books, though WoW takes it a step further and has been my best long-term entertainment investment. It’s such a huge part of me, basically my entire childhood and adolescence, and still my main pastime now in my twenties. Having watched “The Remarkable Life of Ibelin”, I highly identified with it, since many of the experiences were for me a similar simulation of the real world, having struggled with bullying, social anxiety and things like OCD from early childhood. Through the game, I’ve managed to become a (at some point, relatively renowned) leader, team-player, friend and even a micro-cosmic citizen of a world I just feel safe and get satisfaction and learn many skills from engaging in. WoW has been a second home for many over the years, one where they are judged only by their character, behavior, and merits such as leadership, teamwork and dedication. It may have started as a micro-cosmic simulation and it might be highly compartmental (being a theme park MMO with a 20 year old engine basis)… but I consider myself privileged to still be able to play it (I’ve recently been through a rather “close call”…), hope to fulfil myself by achieving a lifelong milestone soon actually (pvp rank), and to be able to continue escaping into Azeroth at my leisure for many years to come :slight_smile: I wish to see WoW endure and prosper, because I truly believe it is unique and can remain innovative and spearhead the MMO genre into a new era :smiley: I just think a re-focusing of development resources into the long-term future of the game, and better feedback loops and more robust testing, as well as more frequent tuning passes and communication such as, say, in the days of MoP, would go a long way. While I also find things like the FOMO mechanics e.g. Trading Post, attempts at branching out and trying new experimental, un-requested systems (AP) or even modes (Plunderstorm)… even regressing to better-received modes (Classic), have all in my mind only been detrimental to the long-term health of the game, which I do often lament as I recollect how active and alive it used to feel a decade ago. Whatever happens, Azeroth shall remain a Titan, forever glorified and emulated in the Chronicles of gaming, entertainment media and even research, of escapism in particular and entertainment, motivation and creativity as such.

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I’ve played guild wars 2, swtor, and elder scrolls online. They’re all OK and good in their own ways, but we’ll never get the nostalgia of vanilla wow back.

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Hey Jonas!

As MMOs go, I tried FF XIV and New World.

I couldn’t get through to the better story parts of Final Fantasy, because the gameplay was a bit bland, and the art style was nowhere near WoW quality. I did find it interesting the game was pretty much just trying to entice me to read the story by giving XP and items to push me ahead, but I fell off at some point.

New World I liked at first (those mining sounds man…) but I realized that the end game was very limited and PvP was very gated at the time. So I lost motivation to grind.

Some friends tried suggesting me Guild Wars 2, but I never got to try it. But I heard it’s one of those MMOs where you don’t really need to work to keep up too much, which is interesting and very opposite to WoW.

If we’re talking non-MMO, then Diablo II is my stable gaming refuge. I also like 7 days to die, a zombie survival crafting building game. I even have a steering wheel for Euro Truck Simulator in which I endulge myself every few months. Sometimes me and my brother have an urge to play some Overwatch.

I really want to try Path of Exile 2, after they figure out all early access quirks. Same for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2.

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I haven’t seen much reason to move beyond WoW

Perhaps “Player Housing” is a thing other games have, that WoW has lacked…. WoW is suggesting they will dip their toes into that. Good.

I haven’t stopped looking for WoW substitutes… but after 20 years, I have not seen anyone making a product that would be a serviceable substitution.

So, here I am.

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Guild wars 2 was a fun time for me. It’s very different, in terms of gameplay feel, than wow, but it does have a pretty deep lore imo. I especially loved the Charr and made a Charr engineer as my first character and main there.

The hardest part about gw2, imo, is trying to unlock the mounts. There’s like 6 different types of mounts that each have unique movement and abilities, and each one takes a long quest chain and some grinding to unlock except for the first one (which is just obtained at a specific level by doing one quest).

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It seems wrong that I should be here in WoW with 14 kids, 9 wives, 6 cats, 3 jobs, and a partridge in a pear tree

Seriously I have no time, and yet I find things to do.

I’ve all but stopped playing FPS due to unnecessary rage and frustration. So it’s single player RPGs and WoW.

:crab: :ocean: :crab: :ocean:

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