I was looking up mouseover macros today and noticed in the priest pvp macro section people had listed /stopcasting macros. Can someone explain to me what these are for? and a situation in when they would be useful? Also I am trying to get better at pvp so can someone explain faking spells “juking” and some rough ideas of when to use? oh and also I am not good at dispelling yet, but I know that it is crucial to being good at pvp. for a priest can someone please tell me when I would use Dispel Magic (removes from enemy) and also purify disease (friendly or self) and mass dispel. can someone give me a quick rundown of how to use these offensively and defensively and some spells/ abilities they work on. I know this is a lot to ask, so I appreciate anyone who contributes
stopcasting is used to stop the casting of a spell in-progress.
I don’t play spriest, but using my mage as an example, if I’m in the middle of casting frostbolt and really need to sheep somebody, I probably want to STOP casting the frostbolt so I can cast the sheep. if I don’t have a stopcasting macro, and I press the sheep button, it will wait until I finish casting the frostbolt. that’s not ideal, so I make a macro to /stopcasting and then cast sheep, and you’ll immediately cast sheep (because it will stop casting the frostbolt)
juking means trying to get an opposing player to use their interrupt, but not actually interrupting your spell. using my mage as an example again… if I have a melee sitting on me, sometimes I will cast a sheep on them… but rather than just casting sheep, I will start casting it, and then stop after about a half-second. if I’m lucky, I will get them to use their interrupt, but only after I have stopped my cast. that way, they use their interrupt, but it does nothing. then I can immediately re-cast my sheep on them. success varies, depending on many factors. sometimes this is counter-productive. if you “juke”, but they don’t use their interrupt, you have to decide whether you want to try and “juke” again. this process can repeat as many time as you want, provided they don’t use their interrupt, but you have to decide how much time it’s worth devoting to it… and of course, you’re probably taking damage the whole time.
sorry can’t help with the dispel stuff. i had an spriest alt back in wotlk, but haven’t played her since then. things are pretty different now, especially with respect to dispels.
I use /stopcasting macros tied to interrupts, disengages, and other such “priority” abilities. You don’t wanna accidentally wait for your long cast to go off first if a pally pops wings in your face or you notice a mind control or greater pyro cast going off.
An example:
#showtooltip Solar Beam
/stopcasting
/cast Solar Beam
thanks for the clarification, just need dispel help now because I seem to be so focused on dmg/healing as disc that I don’t even think to dispel (or know when or what to dispel)
I’m not super experienced but I do know as a mage I would spellsteal stam buffs and other stuff ALL THE TIME in PVP and it was nice because, just prior to beginning a fight, I might gain some health and they lose it before any casts are even done!
It’s great…but…it is secondary (utility) to actual heals and damage. If you’re not sure what to do - look at enemy players (hopefully while dot’ing them) and if you see them with priest stam buffs in particular - dispel it - it just makes that person a little bit easier to kill.
The previous suggestions are good for dps. Most of my casters are healers though so I use my stopcasting macro to bait kicks from the enemy.
You should download the addon called omnibar. Omnibar tells you when the enemy uses their kick ability and puts the icon on your screen with it’s cooldown. When you go to cast heal hit your stopcasting macro during the cast and the enemy will sometimes use their kick. If their kick ability shows up on your omnibar then you know they used it and you successfully baited their kick. Then you know you can spam your casts right in their face without fear of being interrupted.
It can be challenging to use in large fights but on smaller fights you can easily keep up allowing you to be a more potent healer since you are not having to sit full interrupts. It becomes a mind game on how long to let your cast go before stopping it to bait a kick since every enemy is different and will kick at different points of a cast.
A lot of that comes with knowledge of other classes. Pallies for example have bop that can you can remove with dispel magic so your warrior buddy can finish him off. If the pally uses his divine shield then you can use your mass dispel to remove it. Sometimes you can anticipate when they will use their bubble and you can precast mass dispel to land as soon as they cast it. Pair that with your stopcasting macro to help you land it better.
Let’s say you’re on a map like EOTS and you’re facing a rot comp. once your team is thoroughly dotted, you’d mass dispel and another healer would dispel your fear (assuming you dispelled something that triggered fear on you) and likewise you would st dispel another healer who triggered fear on them. You’d also us MD to get rid of roots on your team as they try to get to WW in Gilneas or chase down a flag carrier. I’m not a healer so you can get better advice from someone else, but as a rogue, my best friend on most maps, but particularly flag maps is a healer that is constantly looking to dispel me, because rogues get peeled really hard but the other teams defense, it’s almost more valuable to me than being healed itself. Also, cleansing your rogue in a team fight so they can restealth and leave to cap a base, slow an fc, etc is important, but usually the rogue will ask for it. It’s always going to be situational and experience will help you most. Like let’s say your on defense in a WSG with a MW as the other healer, an FC, and a dps. Let’s say your dps and MW have no trinket. Your dps gets feared and your MW gets poly’d. Your dps is peeling/stopping their dps, your mw is healing and using ring. Who to dispel? Most likely you’ll want to dispel the mw to keep heals up on the fc. The mw can then dispel the dps, if it’s necessary.