this gets fixed in time with group loot system. MoP should start that ball rolling with group loot.
Optional in MoP as I recall as they let master loot stand, and forced by WoD Or legion. I’ve not looked at this in beta yet tbh.
Master loot provides the framework that has gdkp work. Group loot does not. Nor did personal loot. Now PL fixed all this really well. But its not liked by more than a few players.
As seen in retails cutover back from personal loot to group. GDKP did not return when that happened. Carries are not Gdkp, retail has its own gold for service setups lol.
I too have been playing from near day one of wow and I really hate to say it but I have to agree. We can all argue about whether blizzard could or can not stop it, but the reality proven by years of experience is that blizzard either can not or will not stop it. All we can do is accept that and decide the game is worth playing in spite of the bots and gold sellers or decide it’s not worth it and quit.
We all know Blizz could be doing better. Go out in the world and you see blatant, obvious bots everywhere. You can look in dungeons and see 50 characters with names like Xzzlkprn. They don’t even try to hide.
What Blizz needs to do is hire GMs to go around and police the game. Ban bots in real time. Immediately. Don’t wait. These ban waves every few months accomplish nothing. They’re giving bots time to farm, make gold, and send that gold all over the place.
It really feels like Blizz wants the bots to keep coming back, so they make it worthwhile (profitable) for them to do so. A ban after a few months makes the price of entry near non-existent. They pay for it in no time. But if they were banned the first day, and every first day….suddenly it becomes not worthwhile. But you need to hire GMs to go out in the world and investigate. And given the power to do something about it.
Blizz doesn’t want to do that. The bean counters who make those decisions don’t deem it worthwhile, anyway.
Oh and much harsher penalties on gold buyers. As far as I’m concerned one strike and you’re out. Buy gold = account closed.
It’s not. Some laws work and some don’t. It’s like saying there have been laws against smoking pot for decades and they have never worked. Either the government cannot stop the illegal sale of drugs or they are unwilling to. Even harsh penalties like many years in prison have only slightly slowed the use of illegal drugs. Experience tells us that the only drug laws that worked is punishment so harsh the US government is unwilling to enact them, death penalties for drug sale or use. But even the death penalty isn’t totally successful at completely eliminating drug use.
You can continue to pretend you’re responding while ignoring my very clear explanation. But it’s the height of stupidity to believe that most people here don’t see your constant lack of any intelligent response to other people’s arguments.
Seriously. They should just franchise it and let people make ‘official’ private servers. So much talent and creativity out there. People could do so much with the game. Endless possibilities.
If these Seasonal servers are the best the Classic team can offer, it’s a complete waste.
There’s this process that due to Forum language bans we will be calling ‘enpoopification’. WoW Classic is a good example, and unfortunately in stage III.
Stage I is user-centric, where the product is released and the user (you and me) is locked in, because we like the product and caters to us.
Stage II is business-centric. In WoW’s case, streamers and addon sellers. Nobody on the forum ever mentions the bizarre ‘coincidences’ between RestedXP and retail Hardcore, but look into that for a prime example. As part of phase II, Blizzard also cut their customer support by offshoring. Good luck getting anything if you aren’t on stream.
Stage III is where we’re at. Screw the end user. Screw the business customer. Provide a bare minimum product - automate/offshore moderation and support, don’t devote time to fixing any bugs that aren’t absolutely critical, don’t devote time to anything that won’t affect your bottom line. The cattle have already acquired a taste for the pasture - and Blizzard knows as well as we do that they can keep releasing half-baked expansions for unmanaged servers and keep raking in the money.
They do this in a more obvious way, (ban the bots just before quarters end, so all the bots need to “buy” new accounts, and present the “new” account to shareholders as an “increase” in active users.) It’s actually really simple. It SEEMS they’re using bots as a means to an end, instead of having a stance that promotes clean gameplay, and expel the want/need for bots/gold sellers to exist. Ban them instantly, and they can’t show the shareholders all the “new” accounts they’ve earned at the end of the current quarter. I Challenge anyone to prove me wrong…
Blizzard devs really love bots because it shows them what’s possible when people know how to code. Blizzard devs hope to grow up and become real programmers one day.
I’m not saying Blizz should stop worrying about it, I’m just tired of people compalining about it in here. It’s toxic to the boards - page after page of nothing but back-and-forth from people who have no say in the matter and never will. Screaming about it doesn’t help, and probably scares away people who want to use these boards for actual game mechanics discussion.
I remember when wotlk launched most BG’s would be DK bots in garbo gear but because their were SO MANY of them, even if you were geared, gl being roflstomped by 10 of them, don’t even get me started for AV…ugh…just imagine 10+ DK’s gripping you nonstop…anyways, bots will be bots, ban one 10 appear, Blizz sells tokens now, they don’t care.
A few matches early wrath when the bots were wtf bad
we’d leave one bunker for them by a gy.
there code would go from gy to the bunker.
kill them.
Repeat code, repeat kill them. Farming time!
I almost felt bad for horde doing this but…they were going for needless turtle so much we opted to break the turtles farming their bots.
So while they played turtle game else where we farmed the bot dk’s. By the time they saw how bad we bled their out points on the scoreboard…it was pretty much a signed deal.
IIRC recall we stacked a tower that bled them even more so the burn was just overkill to the ending.