I’ve noticed a lot of people painting dks as these immortal chads who can’t be killed by anything that is just straight fake news. Dk is only tanky against casters due to spell warden. Against melee it is very possible to get zugged due to death strike healing for so little combined with a ms effect it does basically nothing and will of the necropolis also got nerfed hard. Very killable as melee it’s just most melee don’t realize they can just turn around and kill the dk
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That’s the price you pay for sudden success. People take notice.
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I don’t know who these “people” are you speak of, when someone complain about DK it’s usually because of how obnoxious their army of minions is and because they are one trick ponies due to abomination’s limb.
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So they’re only immortal against…
enh sham
ele sham
boomkin
ret
afl lock
demo lock
destro lock
shadow priest
fire mage
arcane mage
frost mage
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i think enh and demo do enough physical damage to have a pretty good time into dk but on the flipside using chains smartly will let a dk kite melee dps better than a lot of ranged could
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Demon hunters are mostly magic damage too, no?
It’s a very small number of specs DKs are weak to.
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Demo lock can still destroy a dk cause most of their pets do physical damage. And bajheera is talking about how tanky dks are but he’s a warrior main so dks shouldn’t be tanky against him
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That is not even remotely close to true.
Majority of their damage come from their Dreadstalkers’ dreadbite, a shadow damage ability.
Their Tyrant do magic damage as well, so does their observer and all of their imps.
Empowered Felstorm is the only thing that will do any real kind of physical damage.
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Oh okay, but against non casters dks only have…
pet sac
death strike
ice bound
increased hp pool
death pact
lichborn
wrath walk
chains of ice
blood draw
will of necro
necrotic wounds
Unholy strength
Blood plague heal
Possibly more? Not to mention quite the array of cc.
DKs are struggling right now.
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Almost 0 builds are running pet sac and death pact
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press chains of ice stinker
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That’s a pretty good sign that they’re so tanky they can give up defensive cooldowns for whatever minor other thing they’re picking up.
You can tell because ret paladins are picking up talents like Golden path that makes your concescration (lul) heal you for 435 a second while standing in it.
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UH DK’s are getting the nerf they deserved in the first place when they tanked Frost spec in the attempt to adjust it. Like the paste eating kid getting recess cancelled for the class. No sympathy here.
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Yes but we live in a melee world and casters doesn’t matter…
Now more importantly - tHeY nEeD tO dO sOmEtHiNg BoUt Dk’S dIeInG tO wArRiOrS
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Don’t get me wrong. I hate facing DKs, and they are SUPER strong. I don’t inherently hate dks though. What I mean is I don’t think they’re bonker levels strong. If they were the strongest spec in the game I think it’s within reason at least.
Some of the stuff has been absurd. And something has to be the strongest spec in the game. I wouldn’t be displeased if it was dks. I would very much like it if spell warden was addressed though. The amount of passive healing/shielding dks have is gimmicky. I’d rather them need to press a button.
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Demo lock, Aff lock, Ret, Shadow priest, and Arcane mage all can kill dk if youre good enough
But especially demo lock, Aff wins automatically if the dk doesnt play spellwarden as well
The majority of what you listed here is either useless, spec limited, or not as good as you make it seem
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I guess it could be all perspective. Rets don’t typically fair well into dk in my experience.
From the ret perspective. I have 4 talent points used that do a combined less amount of healing than one of your passive useless things. The point was that they have a lot of really good match ups, and even their “bad” match ups they have ALOT of tools to deal with those. I just don’t think DKs are squishy enough to realize they could use their talents and abilities in a defensive manner instead. Well I’m sure the really really high rated ones do.
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You’re missing the point of the thread it seems lol.
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Youre missing the point dks are making
Nobody wants to be forced to play a rng magic shield proc talent in pvp to stay alive
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dawg we get it u just started playing this dk this patch bc its broken stop defending it
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