Stop the Complaints! (No more nerfs needed!)

Bro, your oppresive class is going to get nerfed, its okay. These things happen. Most of yall complaining about the complainers must be BFA babies, because this is literally how this game works. Specs are cycled through, buffs/nerfs never work as intended(as its literally impossible to grandscale playtest). Its just a nuance of WoW.

Classic TBC is likely coming out in 2021, just relax.

I distinctly remember MoP PvP being a step down from Cata (IMO, the absolute peak of PvP perfection), but it’s still up there as one of the best, in that sweet 2008-2013 timespan.

I stopped reading when you said DK’s were strong. Coming from a warrior…

Boomy, ret, ww and combust damage should all be nerfed by 20%

90% of players don’t want to admit that it’s a l2p issue and call for nerfs. People feel entitled to winning without learning anything especially in a fast meta. People think they get 1 shot for no reason when there’s always a reason.

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says the warrior LOL.

Sure.

Honestly I agree with buffing undertuned calsses (cough warlocks cough mistweavers cough demon hunters)

but there are some things which definately need to be toned back a bit

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Yeah i remember dying in 2 globals at 100% hp through Roar of Sac to 3 non-crit 7k Kyrian judgements into a 10k non crit templars verdict.

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I should of just used my brain to react faster honestly thank you bro.

Was that in arena? I guarantee it wasn’t.

thats a horrible absolutely terrible change.

Boomy convoke spirits needs to be reworked so either a) it takes longer to channel or b) the stronger spells aren’t frontloaded RNG style @ the beginning of the cast, so if the druid gets lucky he can dunk 40k damage on someone in .3 seconds out of stealth

WW consistent damage just needs a bit of tuning down, and maybe nerf the distance of flying serpent kick by a few yards, but otherwise they aren’t too oppresive. Even a 5% nerf would put them in a pretty balanced spot.

Ret damage isn’t the problem. Rets are easy to CC, and easy to kite. Avoiding their damage isn’t very difficult if you time ur trinket well. Their self healing is the problem. WoG for ret needs to be nerfed by about 35-40% in PvP.

Combust damage is really powerful but, its the mages main and only source of damage, on a long CD. If you nerfed damage in combust by damage that much, mages would REALLY struggle to kill anyhting. Might barely make combust worth pressing 2bh.

I honestly don’t really see mages as much of a problem either. Their burst is really obvious, and easy to line them. Maybe a small nerf, but nothing drastic.

I don’t think ANYONE needs something as drastic as 20% damage nerf thats insanely heavy

Yup. It was.

Doubt it highly. If anything you disrespected seraphim wings without kiting as a hunter. Still an l2p issue imo.

I disrespected the 100-0 death within a 0.6 seconds from 2 GCD presses? I already pressed roar of sac at 100% expecting the damage after seeing wings, hence no crits and I could of died even faster, am I supposed to Turtle at 100% too?

Paladins man, yeesh. Shadowlands got you guys actin up or something.

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Or you could post an actual arena log instead of a bg log. It’s your word vs mine. The only explanation for that log could be prenerf week 1 ret and even that’s a stretch. L2P issue

Yes its just a bg log that involves players of almost equal 3v3 rating. We just happened to be all in the same bg bro.

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/sargeras/balkai

Whatever form of delusion you want to wear is fine. the point being, your ridiculous statement about “People get 1 shot for a reason” is stupid. Burst damage is too high, and Retribution is a prime offender.

You disrespected Seraphim wings. Not wings alone. Being the same rating as someone doesn’t make it not a bg log. Those numbers don’t add up and you have no proof other than linking someones armory and being the same rating. Ret is not the reason you’re at 1800. Burst damage is high for everyone INCLUDING hunters. L2p issue imo

So we are in agreement then? Rets, and several other specs are overpowered. If thats the case why did you need to initially say getting one shot is reasonable? Bit of wasted breathe there bud.

Got anything intelligent to add now?

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lol wut. Nothing is wrong with any spec that can kill fast which is almost all of them. (That’s called balance) I’m telling you that you are making mistakes and complaining for no reason. Getting 1 shot is reasonable because it requires foresight and proper positioning to deny damage entirely which is a concept 1800 players cannot grasp. This is an L2P issue and you don’t want to admit it.

People want dampening, they’ll get dampening. Oh well.

bro i just played against turbo cleave where the holy pally did 120k dmg and one shotted someone with hammer of wrath. this game is FAR from balanced. there are so many broken things right now it’s not even funny