Stop pushing Fodder

Like ffs stop trying to make Fodder “work” just suck it up and admit it is bad design and replace it with something else. These changes are not going to fix the core issue of it not being controllable.

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Or at least make the other option as good as fodder.

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I think both options are bad. The other option require 2S activation time which directly counter the fast pace design of Havoc. Most class could just walk out of it with movement ability. It is an AOE attack that takes 2S to activate, it doesn’t make sense.

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I don’t really think Fodder needs a rework personally, it’s honestly one of my favorite covenant carryovers and is thematically the most appropriate carryover for DH barring reskins, it just needs a viable alternative. ED is extremely underwhelming as it stands for a variety of reasons and at this point it would probably be easier to just remove it and make a viable alternative.

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Should just slap on all 4 covenant abilities on a choice node for classes in general.

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Remove fodder and give us back abyssal strike already.

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I would take Sinful Brand any day of the week.

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Fodder should summon a demon and immediately use Illidan’s Grasp (pvp talent) on it. When the grasp finishes the demon dies and you inhale the soul. This would allow you to keep playing your normal rotation and add a good visual/flavor to the class while also being more useful.

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It just needs to be a button we press to get the buff without throwing a glaive at a target thats all the way in the north pole. Going through hoops for a buff every other class gets is ridiculous.

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I think fodder ought be an on-demand CD. it could still be a spawned demon that needs time to get to you and be killed with a glaive toss, but the randomness makes it useless in my opinion.

If it were on-demand, it would still have the downside of taking a CD to summon, time to get to you, possibly a CD to kill it. The power would have a cost and isn’t that what Demon Hunters are all about?

Why do you want a button to spawn a demon that walks to you so you can kill it to gain a buff? Why not just bypass all that nonsense and have a button that can be pressed to just give us the buff, like every other class in the game.

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fodder isnt a buff; it is an aoe damage effect with a self- heal. no different than any other aoe effect that has to be placed, like a spear or something.

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Fodder gives you a demon soul, which in turn procs “Shattered Souls: 20% increased damage for 15 secs”

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It’s not just the buff, though. It’s a self heal, AoE damage and buff.

Having a more controlled alternative (key word) would be fine, even having no demon tied to that alternative, but misrepresenting Fodder as “just a damage buff” undersells it significantly.

Whatever mobs it damages also do less damage to you. The soul now always drops in front of the demon too. The demon is always gonna be looking at you meaning the soul drops at your feet after you aoe it down. I don’t have a problem with it. Or you could throw glaive and get buff immediately for a burst window. One issue with Fodder though is once you demon procs the isolated prey talent becomes inactive during the buff. Just learned this myself.

Yeah guys we can’t make fodder an on use cd that just gives us the effects because it does a small amount of AoE damage and also heals you for a bit

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Honestly, if they just made the demon the same one everytime I would be happy. Then I could have a target macro and tag it as needed quickly. I like being immune to certain cc and getting the big heal and dmg buff…it chasing me doesn’t bother me.

Fodder just needs to be changed or they need to add something viable for ST.