It has no prestige for me, and has no prestige for other high skill players in which the accomplishment is trivial.
For some people it does have prestige though. Look at the numerous threads where someone excitedly proclaims they earned KSM.
It’s actually the perfect prestige reward TBH. Nobody cares about it if you bought it, if I see someone riding around it means nothing to me, so there’s no reason to actually buy it for prestige, but if you earn it yourself, you can feel some warm fuzzies inside because what you did means something TO YOU.
It reminds me of that “I climbed X and all I got was this lousy shirt”. You can buy that shirt without doing the climbing and nobody will care about it, but if you did do the climb, you can know that it means something to you, a reminder to yourself of what you did.
My intuition tells me that the talents will just allow us to regain our choice of some the borrowed power and talents that we lost over the years, and our power levels at level 60 will be roughly the same (assuming that ability damage coefficients are the same).
However, the net power gain may indeed be higher, depending on how many powerful talents we will have access to, and certain new talents and combinations of talents may fit certain strategies for the MT challenges.
You are also right in that MT balance will probably not be top priority for WoW devs, and concerned players should perhaps try the MT challenges during prepatch before any talents nerfs, and then again as soon as they hit 70 after DF launch. I am assuming that the additional 10 talents will be usable when we are scaled down for the MT while also not counting against us for enemy health and damage scaling purposes. (Timewalking during BfA was scaled particularly harshly for max level players to account for Azerite powers, but this doesn’t seem to be the case for covenant abilities.)
Sounds like push notifications in most apps in existence for your phone. Do you really need or want Blizzard to literally scream at you several times daily to come back and get the things you missed out on?
Not push notifications but emails that say “last chance to get so-and-so!” Even though Blizzard has had limited time events since like 2005 people still act like they had no idea what’s going on. Anyways, if they sent out emails then we can reply to these threads with “you have no excuse; you were sent an email.”
But I’m sure they’ll just switch back to “think of the ̶c̶h̶i̶l̶d̶r̶e̶n̶ new players!”
If Blizzard sent emails at least 3 times a day people will complain about the fact that they’re being push notified and they’ll complain about how Blizzard is trying to get them to resub.
Have you seen the average level of intelligence these days? They wouldn’t know how to opt out even if it’s highlighted blue, sized to 60 on the font and they’d still miss it by 4000 miles.
I’ve got a folder I drop all “unsubscribed” emails into and I’m running about 4 months average on still getting emails from them. Bear in mind that’s averaged agains the ones that do the right thing and stop immediately.
My favorite is “You’ll stop getting emails from us in 2-3 weeks” like “Unsubscribe” is a trial period I need to get through.
Never underestimate how oblivious people can be! The guild I’m in has the same players every patch (most of them have been playing for years) forgetting to give themselves a bit of time to update their addons before they log on for Tuesday’s raid.
I was, for a while, in a steady raiding guild and I brought this up in their Discord about it. The Guild leadership climbed on and changed the “show” time to 15 minutes earlier with some stern words to anyone who didn’t show up READY TO RAID. That actually worked pretty well. I don’t regularly raid with them, but on occasion I’ll jump in and they’re still doing that “15 minutes early is on time” thing.
I was actually talking about real life conversations I’ve had, not forum posts! For example, I have a friend that plays ff14 and he says fomo in wow is a big turnoff for him. I don’t think either one of us can assume can assume anything given our respective sample sizes, I was just giving some more information.
Granted, I should add that limited things that I can’t or don’t want to get don’t actually bother me personally. I’m a collector but I’m not a PVPer. Okay, I can just forget about the glad mounts! Etc.
And I very clearly agreed with you, but, that any symptoms associated with any kind of dysfunction, would themselves be targeted for treatment.
It isn’t gibberish, you, either simply didn’t understand what I’d written, or you simply disagree with me. In either case, you’re wrong. I understand that you’re furiously googling for an answer, but you won’t find one, because I’m not wrong.
I would advice not in being permanently antagonistic because a person disagrees with you.
In fact, the constant hostile behavior proves him actually sympathetic which results in him being more believable while you post stuff like “furiously googling for an answer”, which undermines your own posting quality greatly.
I feel like wrath classic getting rid of the dungeon finder (or anyway pretending it will never happen until they change their mind) is a FOMO thing. Everyone who wants actual gameplay will be spamming LFG in the early days/weeks/months all clawing toward cap.
So in other words by the time I get around to it no one will be rolling alts because why would you and I won’t get groups because I didn’t in original TBC. No leveling groups cause everyone is capped. No normals at cap to get out of my greens because everyone’s been capped for awhile and all that’s on order is heroics and no one is willing to carry (nor should they be necessarily).
That’s what made me unsub from TBC. LFD is what brought me back in wrath because it took care of the FOMO. Which for me was more like just MO.
No. I don’t care what others do with their money. Do I think it’s stupid to pre-order so far in advance? Sure. I will pre-order like 2 weeks early whenever they make Evoker’s playable to those who pre-order.
My issue is the game sometimes feels unfun, like a chore/job, yet even when I am not enjoying something I do it anyway because of stuff being removed later.
Like the MoP legendary cloak, I hated the quest line so much. But I am glad I stuck with it and completed it back then, as it got removed.
In times of content drought or if you want to go back and do stuff after you out gear/out level content is why stuff shouldn’t be removed.
I remember not doing the 5 mask visions things, and I am so glad they didn’t remove it because I went back this expansion to do it and get the mount.
Also it makes no sense what they remove vs not remove. Like why did the quest line have to be removed?
I am glad they came to their senses and put the Mage Tower back. I haven’t done it. Not in the mood yet. But knowing it’s there incase I some day feel like doing it is a good thing. Not feeling pressured/rush because on X day it will be removed.
OR, we like having FOMO because it adds both prestige, and a sense of accomplishment by doing it when it was more difficult and not a total roflstomp, and gives us something to remember a time frame about instead of making it “recolor #8675309”. It feels more like you are conditioned to think you have an entitlement to everything in a game because you pay for the sub, which just isn’t true.
In other words: You should be unique but not the rest? For what selfish reason? I would agree with you under specific conditions (see the next part) but you’re not special, unique or a legendary player, therefore this discussion has no value to anyone.
I would agree with you here but we’re in the same boat. Real prestige do only have the 0.1% players. If you’re not part of this crowd, you’re one of us who shouldn’t be allowed to gatekeep requests. Your understanding of prestige is narrow-minded. Let the real players have their prestige, but the rest of us should enjoy the regular FOMO-items.
