Stop crying for more nerfs & more loot

SE is literally being nerfed indirectly EVERY single day because folks are getting more experience with the raid and completing their set bonuses.

Instead of coming on the forums because your 22 man guild run can’t complete it, spend some time to recruit a few more people or merge with another raid/guild. I PROMISE you it’s not that hard. This is the last big raid of SoD. It WAS designed to be hard on purpose.

In truth, Blizzard has been MORE generous with raid loot with this phase than at any other time.

You can literally obtain full 6 PC T3.5 w/o stepping foot inside the raid. Think about that.

Virtually every Warrior, Paladin, and Hunter will be able to get Ashbringer with some farming and a Caldoran kill. You’re guild hasn’t downed it yet? There are literal pugs who are clearing 8/8 every week now. Take a week off and run with someone else.

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Why the lvl 10 sock puppet though?

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No.

Nerf the raid.
Drop more loot.

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Because he can choose to use whatever avatar he chooses.
And it helps eliminate toxic people from employing “cancel culture” in game.

What’s a good addon for frames, I wanna be a healer but don’t wanna use the default blizz ones

it does look sus af

The idea of raiding to get loot is dumb and outdated. There is a real system. Let us gear from Scarlet Enclave by using reals.

This constant drive to eliminate loot rng from the game, lessens it in some way to me.

That’s not what a nerf is.

Why are we suggesting that we should pad a 20 man raid with 30 players instead of making sure the raid is tuned properly for 20 people?

I’m curious how you “cancel” someone in game.

I’d be more inclined toward this view if each raid had unique currency, so you had to do the raid you want loot from to reduce the RNG. Like a pity system for each raid.

We kind of have that now with chalices though.

People having experience and more gear doesnt “nerf” the raid. The entire point of nerfing the raid is to remove the bottleneck that requires guilds to bring more people to kill bosses to get even less loot than the meager amount it already drops.

They said the raid was tuned for 20 when it launched, and thats just never been the case. We want it tuned appropriately, or to drop more loot to accommodate bringing 30+ to clear it.

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You do realize that most guilds are still struggling with it right? Last I saw (per the forums) there was about 131 guilds that have already done SE, but with 25+ people and even less guilds have done it with just 20.

The raid isn’t impossible or anything, but there are parts though that still need nerfed. I know that there are guilds out there that are having trouble with Solistraza, and a lot that are having trouble still with Council.

The guild I’m in just killed Caldoran for the first time last week, and we did it with 35 people. We had to merge with another guild though, and that’s kind of the point that folks are making. People shouldn’t have to merge guilds to get a raid done that was tuned for 20, but most are needing 30+.

Some of the mobs do need nerfing, especially the ones near Council and Cald. Council needs a small health pool nerf. But other than that though, raid is fun but challenging at the same time.

yeah true. tune it to 20 or make the loot for 30.

Caldoran doesnt feel like a 20 man fight.

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“jUsT rEcRuIt”

guilds that are progging have a VERY hard time recruiting. this type of raid tuning causes more upward funneling of raiders due to people leaving guilds than there is recruitment.

I’m in two 8/8 groups and I cleared 8/8 on week one. And unlike the other cringe posters around here, I don’t have to be dishonest about the raid tuning to make myself feel better. It should be properly tuned for 20m groups.

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Seems like it’d be a good time to release the 5-10-15% buffs. If people don’t want to use them, they can just turn them off for the added challenge.

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the question is why he chose to use this avatar.

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What are you? A detective?

I am someone who points out the answer provided does not address the question. You may call me Super Robo.

this is a good time for it yeah

having to split 2 tier tokens amongst a 30-35 player raid isn’t fun

the fact that it’s week 7 and most people are just getting their 4pc now is pretty sad