No one is entitled to a run. This is how it works:
If you have not timed a single +2 then you must time a +2 before you get invited to a higher key. Like a +3.
If you don’t know someone personally who wants to carry you then you have to build your own resume.
Before you get into a +10 you must prove yourself. Progression may look like this:
+2
+4
+5
+7
+9
+10
You can skip a little once you have some kind of track record. I usually don’t get to skip more than two levels. That’s generally the limit.
If you don’t get into a +15, without any track record, and you’re sitting at 205 you are out of your mind to think it should go otherwise.
That is all.
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My only complaint is that it’s called Raider IO. But then used mostly for dungeons.
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The only people who complain are the ones who want free carry.
Sure, there are cases of people asking for too high IO, but the same happens with ilevel and did happen with gearscore. Addon provides the means, but players choose on how they are going act on it.
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I love raider IO but I dont think we need more topic for it. I can see this going places
Fair enough. Call it Mythic IO. I don’t care myself.
A bit more on this:
Applying a +15 without any track record and complaining is the same as applying to a job as a nuclear physicist and then being mad at them because you never got a degree in science…
It’s literally that stupid.
If you want to be carebear and have casual runs… use heroic dungeon finder. That’s what it’s for.
It’s not personal btw. We have leagues for a reason. People that put effort in shouldn’t be subjected to having their efforts wasted by someone that’s never bothered to strive at all.
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I’ve found that the solution for progressing is to create your own groups and try to push your own key. Your IO will go up. I think it’s a good system to track player competence. The real problem is when you hit a brick wall because there are no tanks or healers at certain times of the day.
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This is the only valid complaint against io imo.
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I don’t really mind IO. I just take it with a grain of salt and laugh at the nerds who say “doing an IO check” for low keys.
10 or higher, yes. 7, maaaybe, since you start getting 3 affixes.
But lower? Get out lol.
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There is no problem with Raid Io.
There is something nefarious and malicious about the people who use it.
And that cannot be changed, as this is how the users of this addon want to treat other people around them.
Just replicate the ad infinitum behavior with other people.
And be happy that at least it is not possible to use the same concept with people from another server or country that is not to the liking of some petty individual.
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No, it isn’t. WoW has zero effect on the real world, while the example you gave could have a disastrous effect.
So you’re gonna apply to a +15 without any kind of score?
Nope, I wouldn’t.
If you think that equivocates the two examples, I think we’re done here.
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I feel like you’re splitting hairs though. I mean yeah hiring a nuclear physicist without any education could create a horrible problem…
But the point I’m making is that a nuclear physicist is to his league what someone running 15+ is to there’s.
It’s just an analogy. There’s probably better ones of course, but it makes a point.
I mean I could say that it’s little league versus major league baseball. That would be a better analogy but what of it? I still make the same point. It’s just more troll proof.
And I guess being troll proof is really what’s important in the end.
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Well actually you said it was “literally that stupid” which it isn’t. I get the point, but the analogy doesn’t help given that it isn’t true.
People pointing out that what you said in order to help make your argument was inaccurate is not trolling, by the way.
Tbf, everyone is entitled to a run. Their own run. For that they have to make their own group. But no, no one is entitled to be invited to whatever group they want. That’s completely up to the one who forms the group.
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Terrible add-on… doesn’t even give me the blood alcohol level of my team mates…hic!
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I’ve been trying to get KSM and have gotten all but 2 dungeons at +14, one being a depleted 14 by 10 seconds and the other being a +13. I have only done one +15 and can not for the life of me get invited to +15s because I’m assuming it’s because I’m melee or I’m not a meta M+ class. Been applying to any and all +15s for the past 15 mins with no luck, I very much doubt I’ll be able to do this outside a premade group.
It seems like most people doing +15s now only want to play with others who have done all the +15s
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“literally that stupid” was just me trying to make a dent in the attitude of someone who would apply to a +15 without any track record.
Yeah I could use a better analogy but my original one might make them think harder. I don’t know if an analogy needs to be totally accurate to be effective in this circumstance.
Let’s not forget humor. There’s sarcasm mixed in there too.
Your analogy was fine. Someone just saw it as an opportunity to show off their pedantic smartness.
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