The Holy trinity in mmorpgs. Tank class, healer class, dps class. The choice is simple; You wanna tank so play a tank class. you wanna heal so play a healer class. you wanna dps so play a dps class. See very simple.
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I mean, anyone that is decent at the game uses their whole toolkit, as a monk tank I use my dispell, utility spells(tiger lust) or even(GASP) throw some off heal if needed(mostly on m+).
Any other mindset doesnt belong in group content, as they are asking to be carried. You have those spells for a reason, use them.
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i dont know what you mean. I remember back in the day when most tanks had weak or no self healing, theres content where you dont even need a healer anymore cause the tank sits at 100% doing high level healer level of healing, while doing high level damage. Then most classes seem to have some built in healing these days. Pretty much mage is the outlier that i can think of now. They still have to stop and eat conjured manaslop.
Seems like alot of the “dps only does damage”, “tanks hold threat at the bottom” “healers keep everyone alive” is gone. Seems more accurate to say, everyone is a blob of everything except tanking, yett tanks now are everything in one
I mean your the one making’s long post about it … So Worried that healing may go back to what it was before M+ crap came in to play and changed it ? Hmmm ? Where you had to have skillz to be a healer maybe ? Because healing is just a joke right now
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Healer doing dps was a thing pre-m+, in MoP druids could do some decent dps as a cat for example. Holy paladins doing some dps since probably Wrath, but I would said it became more normal around Cata.
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Not like this At all lol
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Like what? Using your damage spells and going back to heal when needed? Or even full dps while 2-3 healers did most of the healing? People were doing that for a long time(around Cata), what else are you suppose to do? Nothing?
I been a raid leader since Cata and I remember asking healers to dps since Firelands, as a pretty casual guild it was even the norm back then.
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That is what some healers want, to afk and watch netflix while “playing” the game because pressing a button on the gcd is too much work.
i mean some “healers” dont like healing they want to dps, but dont want the 30 minute queues or contesting the other 1000 dps vying for the same m+ spot…
I can make silly posts too!
HAHAHA … sure a a non healer telling a healer what to do. Classic
I play a druid and off the top of my head im counting 9 key binds for dps, though they are split between caster and cat form and one is a long cd. it is almost as many as my healing key binds
I guess I could trim that down to 3 and do like 1/4 as much damage
I just miss the days when healing was intense enough that most every fight healers spent most of their time healing not dpsing like is seems these days. outside of those few fights that are healer checks its mostly just a question of “did the dps mess-up, cast a heal then go back to dpsing”
If this trend continues another couple expansions from now we are not going to have healing specs anymore, just hybrid specs that can build for extra healing to cover the rest of the teams mistakes.
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Being doing it since burning crusade baby, I never healed in my life and I tell my healers what to do. AMA
Good luck with that
Im at this point to say remove healing all together Just make everything DPS and tank and just boost self healing
I really wish this lie about not needing to keep people at or near 100% health would die like the players that try to play this way.
Most of the time if people are not at or near 100% health any mistake can and often does equal death.
Until that changes the expectation is and will continue to be that healers will fill the green bar asap.
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I find this comment funny coming from a holy Paladin.
You literally just dps the whole time as your healing rotation apart from using holy power.
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Nah, nobody is going to make a dps lose damage for more healing, in most cases is better to reduce the amount of healers to 3 or 2(in some rare occasions) in mythic raids.
What I hope that happens with the new talents, is that as a healer you can spec for more damage so you keep most fight with 4 healers, where 2 of them are doing close to 1 extra dps.
wait a sec you think healing was harder then than it is now?
Do people really still think that the game was harder “back in the day” after classic came out and the last boss was 1 shot by a group that didnt even have every character at cap yet?
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I really hope that you, in real life, literally do everyone else’s jobs, too. Because if not, you’re very, very hypocritical here with this statement.
Everyone has a job to do; healers’ job is not to do damage, it’s to keep people alive. If you died due to a 1 shot, that’s your fault. If you died over a few seconds, that is a healer’s fault.
I don’t enjoy mixing the roles. Much like when I’m at work I don’t enjoy doing the job of 3 other people because they all need help. Occasionally I can help out, but with the way WoW is it’s basically saying “here’s multiple people for your job, they will never be able to fully do their job competently without you helping them with their job. Enjoy” and that is not a place I would work at. I would leave right away because I’m not there to do other people’s jobs. I’m there to do mine.
It’s not about being lazy, it’s literally you doing your job. When you have nothing to do, you relax and take it easy. When you have work to do, you do it. That simple and easy. Stop trying to get other people to be lazy so you can pick up their slack.
This is exactly the mentality that your boss will have and try to shove more responsibility onto their workers without increasing their pay for more responsibility. It’s a nonsense argument, at best.
With that argument you would give up the piece of gear that’s an upgrade to you, for someone who asks to have the loot regardless of whether it’s an upgrade for them or not. People aren’t altruistic, we are people. We care about ourselves, friends, family, not strangers.
Or maybe you just need to learn to stop trying to get everyone to be altruistic.
You’re literally trying to take away something from the other teams’ play books.
Why? I will tell you why right here: You cannot look both left and right at the same exact time. You either look left or you look right. Neither of these should actually coexist, as it builds up a much bigger problem in the community that we face literally right now: player expectations.
Having the ability to do it makes others feel forced into doing it, whether they want to do it or not. Much like the invention of the car, those who wanted to walk on their legs couldn’t because the car was too good of an invention. Same thing with wagons, same thing with other inventions, too.
When something comes along that makes things easier, it creates too much expectation and forces everyone else into doing it because of “convenience” or “expectations.”
People who want to purely heal can’t because, though they could, they get attacked by players like this calling them lazy and good for nothings etc. They’re not lazy, nor good for nothing. They do their job, nothing more nothing less. If doing just your job makes you lazy, then, you better dam well be mother theresa because otherwise you’re nothing more than a plain and simple hypocrite.
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Well that’s not true someone recently got angry and left the group bc i wasn’t Necro druid 
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