Then enlighten me, what is the difference between tier 10 in Wrath and season 3 in Dragonflight?
So far, it just seems people being upset about a naming convention while ignoring that the naming convention hasn’t really changed that much.
back in vanilla, i like how “season 1” gear from MC was still relevant until end of expansion
i wore mixed gear from MC, BWL, AQ20 that of course wont beat a full AQ40 set, but i like how i was still relevant
the current seasonal is like: vendor / DE all your season 1 gear, its now season 2
We ran Kara a lot as the greatest source of badges (during sun well the badge gear was really good)
For starters, tier 10 sparks thoughts of a tier set people are interested in. Second, most people weren’t calling it tier 10, at the time. ICC was the flagship content, and people would mention it by patch, refer to the raid specifically “around the time of ICC / running / preparing for ICC” or something of that nature.
There’s a sterility to thinking of it as a “season.”
Where does anyone seem upset before some dismissal or provocation?
No, there isn’t lol.
You I won’t bother talking to. You’re just a troll.
Can’t be that big of an issue if you can just dismiss it with name calling.
This is a good observation. They may have not stopped naming patches, but their reliance on calling things Season X has prevented more creative worldbuilding of patch names and themes.
People were calling it Tier 10. They were calling Ulduar T8. I remember that explicitly because when I started actually raiding in Wrath, it was because of tier 8.5 warlock set which is just the generic way of saying the set you got from running 25-man Ulduar.
People called the raids what they were, people were calling Amirdrassil what? Amirdrassil. Just like calling ICC, ICC. But the ICC patch was just T10 for raiders, Season 8 for PvPers, or 3.3.0 for other people, they weren’t calling it Fall of the Lich King, despite that being the name of the patch.
The adoption of Expansion Season 1 naming started in Warlords because we were starting to get into numbers too high to count on fingers for both PvP seasons and PvE tiers, and was adjusted even further when raids started moving away from having several different raids in the same ‘tier,’ as the last time that happened was Tier 23 in BFA if you exclude the freebie ‘Fated/Awakened’ seasons.
As for the question about being upset? I’d probably say it starts in the very first post, which happened before anyone even responded.
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This is 100% the way it is perceived. Seasons are sterile because the concept is in itself statistical, capitalistic, and devoid of the essence of fantasy narratives. Taking the effort to build a theme or a narrative act into what would be normally called a “Season” would only be an improvement to the game. As it stands, the reliance on calling things “Season” is a slippery slope into moving into the e-sports direction. People don’t realize this but it’s not about the numbers of the players–it’s about the integrity of the game. After all, Blizzard originally thought Classic was not a worthwhile endeavor because they did not factor in a key element of the player desire that was not a quantifiable number in their playerbase behavioral calculations.
The worldbuilding and themes are still there. The launch patch of TWW has its theme, though they didn’t make an extra patch name for the launch patch, the theme is pushed towards insurrection to take down Queen Ansurek and try and get a grasp of whatever Xalatoes was planning to try and stop her.
TWW: Season 1 is just what it sounds like, the first season of TWW for raid/M+/PvP progression. The narrative and world building is just “The War Within.”
You honestly sound like a busker, but iunno that’s just me. Trying to cater to what everyone else is doing instead of doing your own thing is not what made blizzard fun. I wish, as a player who goes in and out of playing this game, that seasons weren’t a thing. That there was more incentive into the social aspect in the game, which in my mind is what made this game popular. Not seasons and achievements.
Feel free to quote it?
It’s level-headed and well thought out.
They also weren’t calling it “season x”. The initial knee-jerk reaction you guys had to this was to say WoW has always been seasonal, which in a categorical sense is true, but is not true in its previous nomenclature.
Can’t recall a single time someone said “can’t wait for tier 10” in reference to the patch as a whole during Wrath, only in reference to ICC, but if that’s your experience, that’s your experience. I’m mostly curious what about OP’s original post seemed ‘upset’ to you at this point, because aside from taking itself seriously (which is fine) I don’t see how you’d get that impression.
I know it’s really hard to see through all the obscurantism and nonsense, but its right there.
I mean… If you insist.
All the parts in which it seemed to be ‘upset’ were marked in bold.
…Yeah, no. None of that reads as upset. Not an ounce of it is inflammatory in any fashion.
Nobody bloated enough on nepotism and corporate value to get hired by a big company has enough creativity to think of things like this.
Hollywood has this problem too. It’s why they only remake things… poorly.
So if I said you were psychologically exploitative, would that mean it isn’t inflammatory? Or if I called you lazy?
Most of it is ranting with the only part where they were being level-headed was making a suggestion about named patches (which Blizzard already does and hasn’t stopped doing).
Blizzard is not a single entity at which you can level accusations; nor is what he said really an accusation, it’s a pretty well-founded opinion of the structure the game is taking. So well-founded that the psychological exploitation is a knowing, intentional act done by other companies as well, like Epic and Amazon. e.g. Lost Ark.
You could argue against that comparison, but I don’t see how this reads as upset just because of that. It seems like you want him to be upset so it’s justified for you to overreact to it.
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He accused Blizzard of psychologically conditioning its players… through a title.