Im a casual. For me personally once my kids hit the age that I couldnt continue to play in 4 hour raid blocks I had to stop raiding. I am not asking for raid level gear either. What I do want is a way to progress my character at end game that will show some power increases and have some cool rewards for time effort. I wish Blizzard would put some casuals in the Alpha/Beta to give feed back on things that the largest segment of the wow community has interest in.