nobody wants to try and clean up a mess someone else made. maybe add in a more severe punishment than a 15 min no bg debuff which is a joke when players just log on a different toon and junp right back into the queue.
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I think they need to fix the busted/one-sided BG maps (cause) before they look at people leaving said BG maps (symptom)
People will still leave an unbalanced/one-sided BG map like Wintergrasp even if the leaver penalty is increased… the root cause of the leaving needs to be addressed first, because some BG maps have a very low leaver rate even during a loss - while certain maps are a “revolving door” of players
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the people leaving aren’t worried about the map being fair. the people leaving want the rewards for pvp without actually having to pvp.
pug teams thinking rushing the bosses in AV as an example. this happens on both factions and the afk exodus happens only when the pve rush is stopped mid or at the choke.
There’s multiple factors to this problem.
First is Conquest: You only get Conquest if you win, and there is a point where you simply don’t need Honor anymore. Even if you gear alts for PvP we’re late enough in the season where you can get decked in WM gear, only slightly worse than Conq gear, in a day.
If a loss is 99% certain, or the time investment to win isn’t worth (it takes at least an hour for comeback IoC wins) theres zero incentive to stay.
Second is one team simply can’t come back. Too many leavers, the other team snowballed too much, it’s against an organized premade…A lot of reasons, same result.
Turns out it isn’t a whole lot of fun getting stomped when it’s you getting stomped and there is no hope for a comeback.
Finally, no timer. If it devolves into a turtle, a game will take a long time.
This only seems to be a problem in epic BGs, regular ones are both timed and often short enough that many of the issues are avoided. WSG had a 15 minute timer, why leave to spend another 15 minutes waiting?
Epic BGs need a fixing, and the fact they are releasing another one while these issues persist is, well, a bit confusing.
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So if you’re in a bg and 2 people leave you want to sit there for another 20 minutes fighting 8 on 10?
Really, my hope is that there is no reason to leave. However there are currently all the reasons to leave and not stay for, like, 300 Honor.
I just don’t know a good fix, but balancing Epic BGs is a good start.
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Sure just lemme not queue into premaders who only 30-40 man epics because they spam lose everywhere else