Lots of people just stop rezzing, do that? IDK?
If they let you throw the match thats less honor.
All kidding aside, the premade stuff will slow down soon, already has. Most the folks that do that, are long since 184 every slot and honor capped.
If you could get honor for Vault out of Randoms it would be different. Since you cant, the majority of those people have already, and more will transition into only RBGs.
Lolz, yeah no kiddingâŚmost teams just mindlessly keep rezzing up and riding back to the slaughter, so all it does is mean youre then liable to be reported afk, silenced for arguing with the noobs on your team, or just sitting their wasting your life like a derelict loser.
/shrug
None of this is new, by any means, not after playing since classic.
âriding back to the Slaughterâ
You let them RIDE back?
We lock gate into their GY, and kill them the second they become targetable.
Your nicer than us.
Yes well a wsg style gy camp theres no need to ride backâŚ
there is no honor here, just toxic children.
i canât remember the last time i saw one guy from sargeras in a bg on either side, there are none or there are more than 5. strange cause they can only queue as 5 max. makes you wonderâŚ
I said if they let you throw the match, that means the premade team gets less Honor, as in Honor Points, as in the currency you use to buy low end PVP gear and upgrade all PvP gear.
Doing random BGs with Friends = Toxic.
Ya okay Bud. Its not though, sorry you donât have Friends, I would suggest making some.
if you are cheating to win a video game against real people then yea, toxic.
if you are bm to real human people who are trying to play a game and have no chance of winning due to you stacking the deck, toxic.
winning and even hard winning isnât toxic, being better and winning by a lot not toxic. queueing with friends who are all good and winning by a lot, not toxic.
making people want to quit a game they paid as much for as you cause you canât win with a bit of honor from your need to farm it? toxic.
blizz could change the rules and stop you and yours from griefing others gaming, but they havenât even stopped the more than 5 cheat from sargeras soâŚ
Playing with Friends is not cheating.
The level of stupidity in your posts is baffling.
Also fun fact, Premades are ALWAYS matched with Premades.
If you Q into a Premade, your team has a Premade, your Premade is just bad.
not a fun fact, if pushed i would call itâŚ
a lie, i donât queue with people and i have gotten in(and been against) mostly premades since shadowlands started.
when did i stay playing with friends was cheating?
You dont Q with people.
That doesnt mean the rest of the poeple on your team dont Q with people.
Blizzard made Premades be a Separate Q long ago. Premades will only go against Premades.
More than five people from a server as large as Sargeras or other large servers can and does happen by chance. It doesnât always indicate a premade.
Example: I (Dentarg) was queueing with two friends for the Illidan server when we dropped into a WSG we ended up with six players from Illidan.
ESO changed it so you couldnât queue with friends and it made lots of people stop playingâŚ
Most âpremadesâ are just people grouped up and not even coordinated. You not being good isnât a premade problem
I see nothing wrong with giving a solo queue only option in addition to existing options. Would divide the bg queues, but it would probably make regular bgs more playable for solo players.
Some of you come across as legitimately angry that a player would want to play a random bg on more of an even footing. For everyone basically using the âitâs a mmoâ argument: by virtue of queuing for a random team based pvp match, the player is engaging with the concept of âitâs a mmo,â you donât have to queue with friends to meet this arbitrary âstandardâ being set.
Man if only you played the good faction! It really is hard to find decent players that are 30+ and can have normal conversations and understand people have family stuff going on.
Well given we have lvl 60âs in low level bgs in premade grps with covenant abilities in the 10-19 bracket now, because they canât face being wrecked at their own level, and farm honor down in the lower echelons, I agree it would be nice.
Fed up of Blizz atm.
Will have to disagree⌠As a solo only player I actually enjoy queing into premade matches as there is only so much road fighting I can stomach and still enjoy myself. lol. That said, surely fracturing the player base further is the biggest downside so I wouldnât hold your breath⌠Furthermore, thereâs lots to learn from playing with/against higher caliber players, win or lose.
onward and upward friend 
You say that there is a lot to learn, but the environment isnât conducive to learning that lesson. Arenas? Sure. Bgs? Too many concurrent factors. You can do everything right in a bg and still lose because the 9 or 14 other people werenât also doing their part.
I have no expectation that they will fracture the queues, but I certainly wouldnât be upset if they did. Someone mentioned the change they made in ESO where you could only queue solo (you can now queue as groups, but its only against others who queue as groups), and I thought it was better for the random bg experience. Everyone is looking for something different. Fun is (or should) always be the operative goal here, but fun is a subjective experience.
Of course the work-around for me is to just queue epic bgs. I think epic bgs are closer to an actual 50/50 (or better) win rate, zero stress, and premades have little impact on the outcome. Do I prefer smaller bgs? Yep. Will I play them when Iâm sitting at maybe a 30% (probably worse tbh) win rate (regardless if Iâm just a terrible player or its premades)? Nope. I doubt I am alone in this line of thinking and I think that it could be argued that premades fracture the queues in their own way.
Regardless of all of this, no one can seriously refute the combat multiplier that having 33% or 50% of the team being well coordinated provides. I do not have enough faith in the gameâs matchmaking to definitively say that my team always has a premade on it as some have argued here.
When you say more playable, what does that look like?
Said playable, âfunâ might have been a more operative term. But if we are sticking to playable, not getting graveyard camped within the first few minutes? Idk. Having a decent chance at success perhaps? Bgs are enjoyable (imo) when you at least feel like you could win. You donât have to win, but if it feels like it is possible or that there was some sort of âfairâ competition taking place, I think that losing doesnât feel as bad.
And if everyone is against splitting the queue, (I am not clear on the counter argument) perhaps a hidden MMR then (which ESO also uses)? It seems like people want solo players to be penalized for queuing solo (stacked odds) while simultaneously being against incurring any penalty for queuing as a group (longer wait times, possibly more challenging games). When you queue as a group into a random heroic dungeon, you donât get the 15-5% buff (depending on group size). Why is that?
If someone wants to queue solo, its a pretty small leap to further allow that person the option of only playing against people who queued as they have.
Would you willingly and regularly play pickup games of basketball (or any sport really) against a group of friends/teammates that have been playing together for however long and you get to just pick random people from the crowd? No, you would break up that team and split them onto both sides of the game to make it fair/equitable.
Then, of course, the argument becomes, âwell build your own team then.â So, for unrated, âcasualâ pvp, I have to build a 5-man team to have a chance at being successful? Why? Explain it to me differently, because this seems entirely unreasonable for this particular area of the game.
However impractical it may be, it is not unreasonable to ask for a solo only queue option for unrated pvp.