I really really thought I was going to log in today and be blessed with an amazing surprise, but alas, super disappointed.
We have a Scarlet Crusade raid with an awesome legendary 2h with lots of paladin lore.
Please just give us our undead pallies and our dwarf shaman ;_; This is season of discovery and it would be so wonderful to see them, especially for such a paladin heavy lore raid and background.
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Assuming they continue with SoD past enclave, I’d bet that they’ll release them during a lull time inbetween content cadences lol you’ll have pugs with 20 shamans in them and/or adverts like “LFM for so and so raid, NO SHAMANS”. 
They dropped the ball, should have release them a few weeks ago to get hype brewing for the fresh content.
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I’d be so angry if they did that.
Per the Blizzard post, this was it. Might be patches to do balance changes but I do not think they have plans past Phase 8 for SOD.
Shame, as I think adding them would have added incentive for those that do not raid, PvP’ers who only play a faction due to the restriction and probably brought more interest into SOD alone with just the flavor of Undead Paladins being completely new.
Seeing how that incentive isn’t there, I imagine the SOD server dwindles again after a month after the raids are completed/farmed.
Communication has been the biggest problem with SOD… We need actual posts on official outlets.
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True, however there was no “Phase 8” on their original timeline that they last released either, yet here we are. Things are always subject to change. If phase 8 goes successfully for them, then there’s 0 reason for them to continue as they’ll just be losing out on a lot of money from subs. Most SoD players have 0 interest in other versions of the game. Era is too boring (many don’t even care about TBC relaunch either), cata/mop is too much changes for them and retail is obviously retail. I know I personally would be unsubscribing from my accounts if SoD ends, as well as a good chunk of my guild. There’s just no other good versions of WoW for us anymore. I might try out MoP classic when it comes around, but I’ll be sticking to my single account and unsubbing from my others.
Well said and its a shame blizzard isnt given us more information. I can only speak for myself SOD is the only version of wow that is keeping me sub. Would love for blizzard to show us some respect.
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I’m not entirely sure how “canon” SoD is meant to be, but I think there’s still a fairly massive hurdle in the Lore of Paladins being literally infused by the Light, which destroys undead. Priests “wield” the light, but were previously described as it being more akin to cauterizing their wounds.
Not to say Undead are incapable of being good guys, but there’s sort of a compatibility issue.
The “priests wield, paladins are infused” thing is just something that gets repeated whenever the topic of undead paladins gets brought up. There is no canon behind it, it’s just head-cannon.
Human paladins were priests with physical combat training or the reverse, physical combatants with holy priest training. Undead can use the Light in the lore since vanilla.
Paladins being physically infused with the Light was something explored in the book “Of Blood and Honor”, Tirion Fordring’s story. At a point, he is stripped of his connection to the Light, and he physically becomes far weaker (if I recall, barely able to stand under the weight of his armor).
It was also stated way back in Vanilla how Undead Priests were able to use the Light, exactly as I described.
Not to say they couldn’t try to dance around it somehow. Like maybe they could introduce a “Death Knight” that is basically just a Paladin with renamed spells and different visuals. That could be a fun spin for SoD, with Gregory essentially being like “I don’t have the same connection to the Light that I once did, but I can use the Scourge’s magic against them to fight for the same cause”.
because the blizzard phase 8 patch notes literally mention
new stories and surprises,
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This loss of bodily function does not happen in “Of Blood and Honor”.
Tyrion seems to have something more akin to a panic attack:
[Uther, after deliberating with four jurors, including Alonsos Faol, issues the sentence that Tirion can no longer] “bask in the Glory of the Light” [and excommunicates him from the order of the Silver Hand. Tirion] “unable to handle the raging despair and hopelessness that washed over in waves, hangs his head in despair… on wobbly legs, he stood and faced the court once more…His head spun, and anxiety threatened to overtake him” (section 6, page 37, “Of Blood and Honor”)
The loss of connection to the light or light-blocking does occur in priests as well such as when Draenei priests & vindicators became Broken. See the short stories about Draenei shamanism released prior to Burning Crusade.
There’s no difference between paladins and priests trained for physical combat. Its head-canon.
What your describing of your body becoming infused or composed of Light sounds more like the process of becoming “Lightforged” which is available to both Draenei priests & paladins (and Turalyon) and is not exclusive to the vindicator order.
I’m sorry you were baited into wishful thinking by YouTubers and forum rumors but Blizz never once confirmed this and made it clear that they weren’t doing in this direction.
What we have in the patch notes is what we’re getting aside from bug fixes and tuning passes.
It’s been a great run!
Anyone can use the light, that’s never really been up for debate. The Undead/Scourage are physically weak to the effects of the light and it causes them intense pain to do so.
The way the light works, it’s not just an on and off switch. The wielder has to strongly believe in their cause and want the Light as much as they need air. This is why the examples of UD Paladins in lore are extremely rare.
I hope you can see why it doesn’t make sense to give commoner players running around the world the ability to be an UD Paladin.
They don’t show anyone respect bruv and they never will. That’s how incompetent they are 
Sure but:
- gameplay doesn’t need to exactly reflect the lore (majority of night elf priests in the lore are not male but it’s fine to play as a male nelf priest)
- the lore shows undead can wield the light
- the lore doesn’t make a big difference between the way a priest and a paladin connects with the light
I wouldn’t call a hero who slays numerous raid bosses a commoner.
I would call a commoner, a commoner. 10,000 per world running around doing different activities are commoners.
Besides, you don’t start off as a Hero. Unless you play retail.
Sure. You also end up as a hero in classic.
I mean there also not multiple copies of ashbringer… what’s your point?
In game populations of player characters do not reflect lore populations. If that were the case, blood elves wouldve been much less popular.
If an undead paladin trainer says something about undead paladins’ order being really small/rare, humble, and perhaps a bit discreet (as most of us would assume it would) be then it’s perfectly above board.
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