Still no PTR Changes to Ret/Arms ...?

Is Blizzard still working on how they are going to balance these classes, or do we think they’re just going to leave them untouched after 5+ months of players telling devs that they need to balance them?

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Divine toll got a super sayan buff.

Balance isn’t in blizzard vocabulary, sayan isn’t in mine either, i cant spell it.

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They’re doing changes, pvp talent changes, not tuning yet

Can they give Rshamans something worth wild

I think they should just focus on taking the absolutely busted BS out of the game before they focus on improving any classes that are balanced. 2’s isn’t even fun when you aren’t super geared because ret paladins will just instant heal to top health and then nobrain rng 1 shot you. It’s such a stupid class, I don’t understand how people even find it enjoyable after 2 times of doing that.

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reincarnation cd have been increased to 2 days cd

it would probably go like this with them

IMO, ret has historically been a class/spec that 1 shot or does massive damage when they pop wings. They just can do it more often now with DT.

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sorry but whats wrong with arms warrior? :thinking: :thinking: :face_with_monocle: :face_with_monocle: :face_with_monocle:

oh they always give shaman something… we’re just not allowed to say it in the forums for fear of someone else’s butt getting hurt.

I mean them buffing classes that are hard counters to ret and putting other classes to arms warrior levels is essentially a nerf to both

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??? But what do you MEAN I want rets to do NO damage AND NO HEALING while I KITE them INFINITELY

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Their sustained dps/kit is super strong, I don’t think that they need nerfed as badly as ret does tho. I think everything with ret should stay the same except their burst from cov ability/legendary should be nerfed by like 35% honestly. The 1 shot is SO annoying and unnecessary for the class to be viable for an actual skilled ret that knows what they’re doing

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Rets are blizzards beginner spec with no skill involved they need to make sure it’s strong so paladin players don’t start crying because their class doesn’t carry them in pvp anymore.

Don’t expect nerfs, incompetence is this company’s motto now

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This is beautiful coming from an undead rogue.

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Rogues have a lot of damage but they do take skill to play outside of the dumb 1 shot mechanic that’s getting nerfed. I agree Aleksi ret paladin is literally the class for 2 iq people that are too bad to play anything else and just need a simple 3 button rotation with RNG burst then tons of free self heals and defensives for when they didn’t mash their wings button and auto attack

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kinda like ret is the bfa havoc dh

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this is bait.

I refuse to believe someone actually thinks this.

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What ret counter classes did they buff

Paladins gets a nerf every patch - what are you talking about? Every since SL started, each of our spec in each patch has been a nerf. The only buff we got was a 15% to FV.

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Hot take: Warriors are fine which is why they don’t get hotfixed or gutted every other week.

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