Still no crafting orders?

How do you complete the Artisan’s Services Requested quests if there are never any crafting orders?

The flavor quest text reads:

"Crafting orders are coming in left and right!

If you’re looking for work, the Artisan’s Consortium always has orders to fill!

You can take a look at our public order, or if you’ve built up a network of clients for yourself, fill some guild orders or personal orders! Just get is done, done, done!"

Crafting orders left and right? Where?! Blizzard what do you mean? Any context on this quest text would be greatly appreciated. I’ve never seen a single crafting order available, apart from one order with a recipe that costs 500k.

Get on an alt and send yourself a personal work order for 1 silver tip, for the cheapest thing you can make and/or just whatever you were planning to make anyways

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Wow didn’t even think of this thank you so much!

It really sucks that this is the only feasible way to complete a weekly. Come on blizzard. I literally had to make an evoker to do this weekly – from a game design point of view that is an obvious failure on a few levels.

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The alt created work orders is what I do too. I send personal orders to my main for blue armor and blue gems.

Blizzard badly miscalculated the ratio of orders to crafters by about 100 fold. Couple this with bad introductions to the system, massive gating of materials and it is no suprise that the system is not performing as well as expected. They have admitted in hotfix notes that there is insufficient demand for things provided through work orders and added all the AH mats to the system but this has done nothing to increase the number of orders.

They also really badly botched the leveling process. Most professions are so hard to level that crafters are so desperate for work order that they’re often the ones paying money for the privilege of crafting something, instead of the buyer paying

They also miscalculated the community’s willingness to recraft things.

I think they thought people would get cheap ones made then recraft to get higher level gear over time.

But why do that when someone can just make you the highest level one on the first go?

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They definitely thought this and it’s the most out-of-touch misread of the room I can imagine. It’s like they’ve never played WoW or spoken to a WoW player.

For that matter, the same can be said about the entire tier system, as far as players are concerned, the only tiers are “best” and “trash”. So having 4 ranks of trash is so pointless.

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I think it’s also customers having an unrealistic expectation, possibly due to not fully understanding the system and/or not having an easy way to calculate using a person’s skill, about what crafters can do. I’d say almost 1/20 orders I have to explain to someone that it is mathematically impossible to guarantee a 405 missive and embellished belt/boots without an insight. Half the time the customer says they’re going to find someone else, even though I’m literally fully mail boot/belt spec and (other than 2.5% more inspire from the inspire trait) there’s literally nothing more that can be improved about my mail belt and boots crafting. It also didn’t help that we had scammers running around for a few days promising between 51% and 70% inspiration chances, so there are still some people that think 40% inspiration is an absurdly low chance.

Yep. Ive made a semi serious push to inspiration and even with a t3 incense I just barely touch 30%

They’re not that naive. There’s a reason many recipes are locked behind high renown and the grind is heavily time gated. If rank 2 is the best available, then that’s what everybody would take for now and recraft later. Except then they shipped the game with a bunch of known loopholes for getting the rep quickly and didn’t patch them out for weeks, nor did they undo any of the damage. That effectively made higher quality crafts available much sooner.

And once you have crafters that can reliably craft 4’s and 5’s, why would anybody take anything lower?

That’s exactly what we’re saying.

Right, and what I’m saying is that Blizzard knows this too. That’s why all that time gating is there - to force slower progression through crafting ranks and to keep lower quality crafts viable longer. Except then they apparently had higher priority bugs to fix and let people pretty much bypass the entire thing.

Now it’s a huge mess. 5’s are the only acceptable quality, with DF barely a month old. Crafters who jumped in early are miles and miles ahead, while everybody else is stuck wondering why there are no crafting orders coming their way and begging somebody, anybody to let them please craft something for a skill point.

Even with the timegating working as planned rather than subverted, player behavior says anything not max rank is trash. Nothing blizzard does in a revamp 18 years into the games life will change this attitude.

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Sure. But if rank 3 is the max rank for the time being, that’s what they’ll go for, giving many more crafters a chance to level up and get established.

And as a side note, I don’t really blame people for this attitude. If you can get quality 5 for the same mats, why take a 2 or a 3?

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. . . an Edsel of a decision.

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Hey man I just have to say. You’re lucky you even have that many orders. Tailoring has none of that. But yeah, I’m sure there is a built in unknown, and there are many players who don’t understand the crafting system (and they shouldn’t have to :smile: ).

But you’re right, you’ve specc’ed into this “specialization” that literally was marketed as having value, and like many other crafting profession “specializations” it was a 1 week pump-and-chump and if you weren’t in that you lost out on its actual potential. Many talent allocations are actually worthless now.