Just baffles my mind how feral has been insane this entire season and had the most baby handed nerfs ever, meanwhile they cut off unholy DK’s limbs.
It’s finally semi recovered but the fact they legit just never nerfed feral or SP is nuts. Or BM for that matter.
i mean at least they buffed rend LMFAO!!!
I just find it funny when people say they don’t do tuning because of the AWC.
Hmm. Why? They don’t generally do tuning during AWC.
They still havent banned phantom pain abusers btw
If wow had like 20 million more pvpers you might get bi weekly tuning
get to streaming and promoting
Rsham is beyond useless, buffs did absolutely nothing
Sp did get some fair nerfs
No idea how bm and feral got slap on the wrists. Bm especially, they love making that moronic spec viable even in PvE
when you say bi-weekly, do you mean twice a week, every other week, or an LGBTQ week?
I felt this
The real problem with PvP tuning right now is how oppresive both Paladin specs and BM hunters are.
Unavoidable damage, infinite defensives, infinite instants as a healer.
The Forbearance change is one of the worst things ever and promotes brainless spamming of the strongest CDs in the game back to back.
You literally cannot be punished for a mistake on Paladin or Hunter.
You wanna be in the 0.1% percentile?
Get 2 games in a row in shuffle without a paladin or hunter.
The combination of unavoidable damage / instant healing + absolute immortality and infinite def CDs create an extremely annoying experience for other classes that don’t have that.
I think it’s a LOT stronger in shuffle than it is in 3s.
Which would actually put a lot of context to your complaints about DH defensive.
In regular 3s DH can win with coordinated goes or get enough pressure over the course of the game with 45s burst windows that people can’t always trade for.
In shuffle, regular sustained damage and very strong/multiple defensives are so much more important.
Stuff like nether and dark aren’t bad buttons for staying alive, but they don’t generate tempo the way lay or bubble/bop can.
Oh be my guest and queue into Ret / BM / Disc in 3v3 and provide findings.
If you won and it wasn’t qualifier games, props to you, you beat a comp with over 50 def CDs and infinite damage
I do regularly. It’s ALWAYS a dampener game; it has to be because you can’t Play to win vs bubble, bop, lay, sac, sanc, 2 hunter walls, turtle, pet sac, 2x painsup, dome, swap, ulti pen, and rapture.
You’re right! They have more defensive CDs than almost any other comp!
You can’t realistically slam your face into the comp and just trade CDs normally because they have MORE cds so you need to play for efficiency.
And even if you play for efficiency, your team doesn’t have that number of CDs to trade in response.
They outlast you, outpve you, and have extremely simple and easy setups with little counterplay.
More so, setups aren’t even necessary oftentimes for them - you literally just get PvE-d down.
Finally CC-ed healer? Well you didn’t CC the ret, so he Sancs. CC-ed healer? Ret is there to compensate immediately.
Want to attack the Ret? He gets pet sac and hunter’s micro CC support.
Want to attack the priest? LOOOL good luck on that one buddy
So yeah.
This is an issue on its own. It’s not just my class that gets cancer from these specs. Everybody does.
You shouldn’t need a Multi R1 RMP or Feral / Mage team to somehow widdle down 50 defensives of 3 Duelists smashing their keyboard and saving eachother nonstop
of all the broken comps in the game we are complaining about cupid
Right, so you have to do more outside of cds, and get more out of your offensive cds.
Fortunately ret cds arent too insane atm as long as you respond to the templar hammer of light chunk. Really just line the call of the wild and it’s not terrible.
Ya, when I lost to cupid it’s almost never because they get clean setups like jungle, it’s because they just run you over with damage over time and outlast you.
Yep! Lotta synergy and also sanc is very dumb. Surprised that didn’t get pruned.
Sure, but there are a TON of comps and classes that can rotate well and do fine. I think everyone is tired of ret paladins being a separate set of healer CDs, though. Finally feels like they’re in a good spot relative to the past 2 expansions doing a reasonable amount of damage relative to the rest of their kit.
It’s not about insane “DPS” CDs. It was never the point. It was about defensives. Cupid widdles you down with PvE dmg, not oneshotting you like a Sub rogue team.
Not necessarily. Spoke to a Ret friend of mine last night that was farming his Glad wins with this comp, even he said how stupid it is, and the only thing they lost to was - Ret Fury Mistweaver.
The only comp that rivals the brain cells required of Cupid
Tuning, rewards and Match making issues made this season really average.
If it wasnt for blitz i think pvp would be in a really scary spot.
They need better balancing parses, pvp needs some better rewards outside of a boring PVE recolor and match making and balancing the difficulty across the different game modes needs improvement.
Why would anybody do arena 3v3 when getting to 1800 has the same difficulty of 2.5k plus in blitz.
I really think they need better gladiator mounts too.
Like, I’m gonna get it because I’m a collector, but this is the first time I just have not cared aboutba gladiator mount because they’re so un-unique and don’t even feel like a desirable reward.