STEP 1 : Create a problem
Patch X.0
Tied to a covenant, azerite armor, legendary rng, UI break , etc <= You are here
STEP 2 :
Patch X.1
Acknowledge the problem
STEP 3 :
Patch X.2
”Fix” the problem : “Wow thanks Blizz for listening to our feeback”
Can we please skip this and get back the ability to AT THE VERY LEAST track our own cooldown and buffs to avoid 2 patch of misery ?
Thanks.
It’s more like they’re trying new ideas to make things interesting and/or improve them and have done this since Wrath and some ideas work while others don’t.
You know what would make this a reasonable change? If we could opt in to it.
They’re more than welcome to test things, but don’t make all of us Alpha testers on the retail release.
Ion did explain they didn’t want to wait any longer to do this and it had been a thing on the back burner for years. They know it’s not going to be perfect but better to get it done now.
This is what happens when you kick the can down the road for years and try and do everything you should’ve done ages ago at the last second.
I’m gonna be totally honest with you right now, Ion needs to figure his job out a little sooner than this.
If the update is not ready and functioning, don’t push it to live. It’s that simple. You can’t just do 50% of the work now and then go “We’ll do it live!” He’s not Bill O’Reilly.
Having and trying out ideas is not the problem.
Problem is with blizzard’s attitude.
Player’s feedback regarding things such as legendaries rng, azerite armor, covenants etc. was very loud and clear. Every single time blizzard said: “We hear you guys, but we gonna do things our way anyways.“
After shadowlands debacle they stepped back and reflected a little bit, and this resulted in many quality of life changes such as account wide reputations, warbands and such.
But they are back at it again, fully embracing ‘we know better attitude‘.
Midnight should be expansion where they develop their addon equivalents, without changing any api and breaking any addons yet. You should be able to choose between addons or blizz UI. Then api changes should happen between midnight and the last titan.
Now we have rushed product that does not work, you still need addons, and they did not even achieve their goal.
Addon situation is not the same as covenants or azerite armor. I do not see a world where blizz admits they were wrong and back down and reverse the changes.
Why do they even care that a miniscule group of title CE raiders solve mechanics with addons?
Well it’s too late for that cause this gravy train already left the station.
Because it wasn’t a miniscule amount. All of these Pro gaming teams addons and setups populated downwards into the rest of the raiding community with all of their solved addons. You had to have these addons in a lot of guilds apparently cause that’s how the community is. I mean why not use a tool that increases success and try not to waste your raid teams time right?
This is one essential aspect of that ongoing war, and the need for Blizzard to balance around knowing this was a thing which they’re now doing something about.
I kinda wish they took a more timid approach to it… They have had a lot of duds of late and they keep seemingly to refuse to build on their success
azerite was never fixed BTW, they just kept dumping more crap systems on top of each other in BFA
And that’s the issue.
The only thing that needs to be leaving the station at this point is Ion.
Very well, but this is a really poor way of doing it.
In a similar vein, mistweaver was in a terrible place back in Shadowlands. Constantly F tier and always unwanted.
They could have tried to fix it with a bunch of things immediately. I wonder if they could have. Maybe they could have. Fact is, they didn’t.
But interestingly, starting in Dragonflight, they began a slow methodical progression of changes and upgrade to mistweaver. It didn’t become amazing overnight, but we arrived at a place at the end of Dragonflight where it was actually pretty good sometimes.
That’s the approach they should have taken with AddOns.
Oh come on man we’ve done this too for years. Did Ghostcrawler leaving help anything really? Nope. There’s a lot of devs that don’t talk to us that likely have strong opinions does that mean if we don’t agree with them they should leave too? Of course not!
There’s a difference between “not agreeing” and “intentionally releasing a half-finished update 6 weeks before a new expansion launches”.
People have less ability to track their CD’s, people are apparently getting LUA errors with no addons installed, they’re pushing all these changes that feel incredibly untested and giving us radio silence when we voice displeasure. I mean, jesus, these forums have been a warzone for the last 5 days, with people being incredibly hostile over the way that other people want to play this game, and there’s been no dev conversation about it, except for the one guy that’s given like two updates on transmogging, of all things.
The reason you can’t is so that weak auras don’t do fights for you.
Which WeakAura was playing the game for people?
oof,
This thread is too smart for me.
I’ll see myself out.
::walks into wall::
Idk maybe the release patch on the 27th of Feb will have a lot of fixes in it. But, they are patching things as we can see regardless. I believe I read the beta build has fixes in it that aren’t applied to this version of the client we are now on.
The war is an unnecessary pissing contest between Ion and Echo/Liquid. If RWF didn’t exist, the design team could focus on how they could make raids fun for more people, instead of making them as miserable as possible. The add-ons are not the problem. The problem is RWF.
Preaching to the choir my friend. I’ve said many times personally I wasn’t fond of the esports focus cause it does tend to affect the game overall and how it is balanced AND designed. But that said pro players are also very helpful and even Max was there on the video with Ion pushing these addon changes. I think there is a world where both can coexist which is why I was hoping more casual/midcore content would come to the game like Delves, and now that Blizzard sees a definite desire for that content it’s good to see a bit of a course correction as well.
The game has evolved it’s just a fricking huge game and clunky in how it evolves. Pro players and the esports scene will always adjust regardless as long as their content is there.