Seen enough post on Reddit that I thought I should weigh in on the official forums. Heirlooms need a total overhaul
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yes and no
for yes remove the need to upgrade them let them lvl with the player and refund if it was gold used to upgrade.
as in no we have faster lvling now
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You don’t have to buy heirlooms now if you don’t want to. I personally find them as a way to not have to worry about upgrading a lot of gear as I level. But as a player who has had them for years, I can understand this discussion, as to if a new player needs to put the gold into buying them. At this point it seems like a gold sink for new players.
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I definitely wouldn’t recommend buying them now. I like them a lot for speedleveling, because you can enchant them and stick them in your warband bank for alts.
You also won’t consistently fill up every slot as you level/dungeon, and you spend so little time at any one level that they quickly outgrow anything you do get.
So yeah, they’re marginally to extremely useful if you already have them, but definitely not worth grabbing them as a new player.
If I could do anything to them myself, I’d change the rested XP effect (which is useless) to something more helpful for overworld leveling, like speed boosts or movement ability CD reduction, spawning creatures or having extra abilities or something like that.
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Heirlooms are pretty much worthless now and they just don’t care enough to revamp the entire system of heirlooms
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They didnt refund the gold I soent buying fastest flying on alts what makes you think theyd refund heirloom uograde costs
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Heirlooms ceased to be relevant sometime aroundabouts the first Level Squish, at which point the leveling process has gotten progressively faster, easier, more streamlined, and less relevant with each passing expansion/stat squish/level squish.
So 100% agreed, Heirlooms as they are now are basically pointless (aesthetics aside) and laughably expensive for the now non-existent benefits they offer.
Either make them useful again or stop making us pay to upgrade
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There’s something to be said that you can invest gold or time into having a piece that will follow your character all the way up to level 70, but I’ll most definitely agree that they’re far too expensive in terms of time investment to get to that point, whether that’s through farming Timewalking Badges or gold. On many of my characters, I never replaced a lot of my starting pieces until I hit 70. It turns the Dalaran crash quest into a clustertruck.
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They should give us another easy ring, and fill in the other gaps so we can at least have the whole set… all slots filled EASILY… no eterna grinds for god sake
The least they can do since looms aren’t that useful, given all the gold spent
Heirlooms are for the convenience to not have to replace said slots as they’re not too far behind in power compared to at level blues. Don’t really see an issue with them existing and not being super OP.
Do we even need heirlooms at all at this point?
Yes, heirlooms are extremely useful. Ask any tank getting crushed at lv77 because all of their gear is severely outdated. Leveling through dungeons (which everyone does) needs heirlooms to not be 100+ ilvl behind what the dungeon is tuned to. Anyone who levels through questing does not since those routinely give a full set anytime you stick to a single zone.
Upgrading needs to go, make it a single rank. And make them automatically update to current max level every x.0.5 patch.
I posted about this on a similar thread today–short version is my 5/6 2H heirloom sword was going to cost 7.5k gold to get to 6/6 for my lvl 64 warrior. I went to the AH and bought a 2H hander there instead for 250g with better stats.
Who are they kidding. A two handed sword is very specific to a handful of melee classes. I would have to lvl 30 warriors to get my money’s worth. Plus with how fast lvling is now my warrior would be lvl 80 by the end of today . Why would I invest all that gold.
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Might need to think about this, as some migh see the upgrade coming soon and just hold off till it is in. What I would say is keep it no more then 1 upgrade level, so those that want it can get it to reach max, but those willing to wait can still get up to the past max (DF cap for TWW) and then quest or dungeon for gear from there.
Good. If anything the deletion of upgrades should be announced ahead of time so players stop wasting any more gold on a dead end.
Once the initial leveling rush for an expansion is over, there is no reason at all to hold heirlooms back. By the .0.5 patch there’s usually already catchup gear for max level so why not for leveling too.
heirlooms are kind of pointless now that leveling is so absurdly fast.
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Maybe they should just remove the concept of fixed item levels from all gear below max level and have all stats on all sub-max level gear scale to your level. You level too fast for gear progression to be a relevant factor below max level now.
That would also mean upgrade levels for heirlooms would be gone. They would just be about set bonuses and being able to cover slots as soon as you make a character.
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I came back in 2020 after a 9-year hiatus (month before Shadowlands). I had a few heirloom pieces I believe but ended up collecting 102 out of 105 pieces before end of Dragon Flight. I dropped just between 3.5-4 million gold into upgrading them all to level 70.
My OCD is what caused me to upgrade them all to max level. Even though I only use certain ones every single time, they make leveling even easier and faster because you level to fast and not all slots get upgraded from questing. I don’t go the dungeon route ever when leveling but stick to doing usually 1 zone before maxing out and leaving Chromie time.
For me, was it dumb to waste that money on upgrading everything even if I don’t use it, definitely. Does my OCD appreciate it when I look at them, definitely. But I also have nothing to spend my money on and each week I usually give away 250k worth of gold to random people and still keep increasing my gold reserve from questing.
Eh, keep them as a luxury tax.